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        09-30-2008, 09:38 PM
    Green Broke
    I cant choose I need help!

    This is probably in the wrong section move it if needed!

    Well as you probably remember I put chance up for sale then took her down because I thought twice about it... Well I went up there today and yester and rode her and she did very good... but that's besides the point ... I want more... I want to jump,show, go on trails alone or with a friend. I want to be able to race in the fields so on and so forth ya know... with chance right now I can't she's completely green and just know the basics whoa and go and w/t/c ..... I can't ride her out side the indoor anymore... I have to lunge her before riding... I guess you can say its more effort then I want to put into just riidng.....

    The only thing is.. is that she is a one person horse.. very attached to me and has a hard time trusting anyone but me..

    I don't know what to do.. I need 100% honest opinions please don't be like well you should have sold her in the first place you didnt know what you were doing! Well I broke her to ride and trained her to jump.. so honest opinions

    Thanks so much in advanced! I need answers asap
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        09-30-2008, 09:46 PM
    HAF as I've said before, I think you and Chance make a great team but the choice is entirely up to you.
        10-01-2008, 12:18 AM
    Well I'm positive that when you bought Chance you said she had been showen and had been jumped.

    In fact you did say this...

    So it sounds to me like you should sell her as it seems to me she has just gone down hill in her training..
        10-01-2008, 07:38 AM
    Green Broke
    It was simple school shows in jumping then she was off for like a year or so never touched or bothered with in the pasture till I bought her.. so basicly I guess you can say re broke her. She was once a lessons horse as well before the showing I beleive so I think it was just the lesson kids that showed her idk I just know when I got her was barley broke. She accually is MUCH farther in her training just not as far as I want guess and I guess ill admit I gave her the basics again and started to train her to turn on the forhand back and semi side pass and go on he bit lol but I don't know what to teach her next and I may not have hte exsperience to teach her the rest..

    I just looked at my post and the stuff I said was basicly what I was TOLD.. the women I bought her from lied about everything chance can do a lead change a very choppy one .. before she came to me She never jumped higher then 1' I was excited I was excited about this mare and beleived her. She was shown but by lesson people im assuming
        10-01-2008, 07:43 AM
    TIME! You just need to put miles on her. Horses are not becoming perfect overnight, and you have to really spend time and work hard to make her a horse of your dream (and go through LOTS of frustration too on a way). If you don't feel very confident get a trainer (at least once or twice a month) for the lessons (may be the one who can ride with you outside). If you feel like you don't want to spend time selling would be a good option.
        10-01-2008, 07:52 AM
    Green Broke
    Basiclly I've given her 8 months of time really and in those 8 months we've reached many personal goal but for some reason we are going back to sqaure one... like back to the rearing.. Im wondering if someone was working with her when I wasnt there cause we were cantering/galloping around the ring! And jumping 2'6"! I don't understand..
        10-01-2008, 10:43 AM
    It does take alot of time,and every horse owner feels at one time that their horse is too much for them, that they should sell the horse etc. I know for a fact that I have, and at times I've even made out a for-sale ad for Sonny. But I worked through his problems...and gosh did he have ALOT of problems.

    Sounds to me like you still may be asking a little much from Chance, more than she can give you at this time. It might be that Chance, like yourself, is not too confident and needs good assurance.
    You also said that she is extremely bonded to you, and if she truely is a one horse, horse than she will give the world to you simply to get love and attention.

    The rearing could be a dominance issue, it could be discomfort, or something is scaring her. (i'm sure there are other things that can cause a horse to rear...but can't think of any). I guess it is possibly for someone to work with her when your not there, but it seems almost unlikely. I thought someone was working with Sonny for a while at the old stables, but the more I realized, I wasn't getting on him to correct his poor leading manners, and he was slowly testing and testing me.
    HAF, I know you like Parelli somewhat so here is what they say about rearing:
    "Horses tend to rear for two reasons: 1. They are being held back. 2. They feel trapped or cornered. Usually a more flighty horse tends to rear, and also makes you want to hold them back. They begin by tossing their heads, and if it gets bad enough they'll rear. Think of it this way, they have a driving, forward desire yet there's something in their mouth holding them back. If you hold back strong enough there is only one way left to go... UP! Some people think horses rear on purpose to intimidate the rider but something important to understand is that the horse is thinking like a horse. He's naturally a fearful, claustrophobic animal whose main defense is to run away.

    We don't believe in punishing horses for rearing, mostly because it's a fearful reaction that is often caused by the handler or rider, albeit unintentionally. Once you change your approach, regain your horse's confidence, and stop using two reins to control your horse, things will change dramatically. You can learn how to do this using our specialized techniques. The best place to start would be The Seven Games DVD - The Secret of Teaching Horses; then go to the Calm Ride DVD. Both of these DVDs will give you new and effective strategies right away. After that you should study HorsenalityTM so you know more about your horse and then Natural Attraction to learn how to get him to want to be with you instead of trying to get away from you.
        10-01-2008, 11:10 AM
    Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
    I thought someone was working with Sonny for a while at the old stables, but the more I realized, I wasn't getting on him to correct his poor leading manners, and he was slowly testing and testing me.
    Well said. How old is she? Mine seems to be pretty quiet for while and now (she just turned 4) I have a feeling she started to test me pretty insistent. She's coming out of her "baby" mind and looks to take over. Could it be the case as well?
        10-01-2008, 02:36 PM
    Green Broke
    I use to ask way to much of her intill she told me no.. the hard way... Bloody situation... o.o!

    I'll continue to work with her I just don't know what I want right now but ill keep thinking on it and hope I want make a stupid choice.
        10-01-2008, 02:43 PM
    OK, I'm going to give you my honest opinion so please don't be offended.

    I think that you need to invest in a trainer and/or a lesson coach. It sounds to me as if you don't have a clear program in mind and that an outside voice of instruction would be most helpful in your situation.

    It sounds as if you are miscueing Chance and that the two of you don't understand each other. Sometimes minor miscommunications can lead to larger problems. I would like to see you get an instructor for both you and Chance. I think it will make all the difference in the world for you both.

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