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        04-11-2010, 11:36 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HalfPass    
    Cinny's Whinny gave you many good comments to think about.

    I am a bit confused.

    You stated he was on a trial and then you said the opposite.

    So ..do you still have him on a trial? Or....have you already purchased him?

    Would love to hear a clarification on the above questions.

    Another thing you could do is have the owner or previous owner (whichever it is) come and ride him. See what he does.

    The first thing I thought of was a saddle issue. After a couple days of riding in an ill fitting saddle...well think about wearing a pair of shoes that do not fit your feet?!!

    If you can get someone out to work with you (a trainer) I would have them make an assesment. Only if the vet says he is okay to have work and the saddle fits.
    A vet does not necessarily know if a saddle fits right. So I would ask a saddle fitter to come out and do an assesment and fitting. You may find they have a saddle that will work if your keeping the horse.

    I have no idea of your riding experience so I can not comment as to if it is something your doing specificly.

    What dicipline are you riding? What is it your planning on doing with the horse?

    Drug test came to my mind first....If possible get it done! Just in case you need that for a later reason if it were to find something.

    Did you see the owner ride this horse? If so what did they do?

    You also stated that your mom tried to lead you and it didnt work but then in another place you mentioned the horse being perfect when being lead with or without a rider.

    Last piece of adivce......please be open to the idea this is not the horse for you and it is totally fine to find a different horse that better fits your knowledge base and experience....

    Halfpass

    Sorry for not clarifying, I haven't purchased him yet but I am already claiming him, sorry again. I claim him because he is at my house and pay for everything he needs. I've been riding for 13 years and have had many horses. I don't mean like "I am the best ever" but I have been riding for quite awhile and have rode lots of horses I haven't had this problem. My mom lead him but he always put up a fight and sometimes he does put up a fight when someone is being leading him when he is tacked up with or without a rider and sometimes even does the same untacked but once I get him going he is just great. I am riding him western but I ride English. I had a professional come out today and she said he is just stubborn. His "owner" rode him first, bareback. He would shake his head but he did okay for her but its not me, he does that to my trainer, my mom, me, my cousins, everyone.
         
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        04-11-2010, 11:49 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rissaxbmth    
    Sorry for not clarifying, I haven't purchased him yet but I am already claiming him, sorry again. I claim him because he is at my house and pay for everything he needs. I've been riding for 13 years and have had many horses. I don't mean like "I am the best ever" but I have been riding for quite awhile and have rode lots of horses I haven't had this problem. My mom lead him but he puts up a fight and sometimes he does put up a fight when someone is being leading him when he is tacked up with or without a rider and sometimes even does the same untacked but once I get him going he is just great.I am riding him western but I ride English. I had a professional come out today and she said he is just stubborn. His "owner" rode him first, bareback. He would shake his head but he did okay for her but its not me, he does that to my trainer, my mom, me, my cousins, everyone.
    When I mean he is just great I meant when I get him going on a lead line and when I say put up a fight I mean throw his head and stands still
         
        04-12-2010, 10:05 AM
      #23
    Yearling
    Rissax,
    Was this the only horse you you went to look at?
    Something just does not seem right.
    How much longer do you have him on a trial???
    Why did the "owner" get on him bareback? Did she ever ride him in front of you with a saddle on him? I think you said someplace ut I cannot remember.

    The professional that you had ride him had the same issues, can you tell me how the person dealt with his antics?

    Is there anyway at all you can show us a video? Pictures?

    Still could be a saddle problem, or it just could be the horse has some issues with pain or temperment or both together.

    If the horse in your avatar is him, he is cute, but cute does not always cut the mustard.
    Keep us posted

    Halfpass
         
        04-12-2010, 10:12 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    I agree with that a previous poster said...have the owner come out and ride him. If he's fine with them than it's unforturnately it's you. Also, I'd look over your equipment with a "fine tooth comb" to make sure that nothing is poking him or rubbing him or what ever. Make sure everything is fitting right, but before all of that, GET THE VET OUT. That's the most important thing as others' have stated, just to rule out any health problems/issues.
         
        04-12-2010, 10:21 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Since you are still on trial, I would say this is not the horse to pursue. Let him go back and look for a horse that is not coming with baggage. The current market is a buyer's market, why invest in a problem if you don't have to?
         
        04-12-2010, 10:28 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    Rissax,
    I am still confused...
    I was reading the threads and came across this thread started by you.

    Blue(:


    You stated you purchased "Blue" for $1200 so I do not understand why you say in one place your on a trial and in another place he is yours....

    For the life of me in the video I know not why the person would longe him on the frozen ground!

    While I think he is cute. It would be nice to see some video of him being ridden.

    Something is going on with him and before getting in to deep I would want to know what that is.
    I hate to see you purchase him and then the issues become worse or you find that you two are not suited for one another.

    Can you take photos of the tack your using while it is on him?

    Let us know....
    HP
    Ps...love his face
         
        04-12-2010, 04:45 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HalfPass    
    Rissax,
    Was this the only horse you you went to look at?
    Something just does not seem right.
    How much longer do you have him on a trial???
    Why did the "owner" get on him bareback? Did she ever ride him in front of you with a saddle on him? I think you said someplace ut I cannot remember.

    The professional that you had ride him had the same issues, can you tell me how the person dealt with his antics?

    Is there anyway at all you can show us a video? Pictures?

    Still could be a saddle problem, or it just could be the horse has some issues with pain or temperment or both together.

    If the horse in your avatar is him, he is cute, but cute does not always cut the mustard.
    Keep us posted

    Halfpass
    I went to look at 4-5 other horses. The Thoroughbred I went to look at was crazy. The Tennessee Walker I looked at was too small and had something wrong with its ankle. The Quarter Horse I went to look at had problems with cantering and had a very bad swayed back.

    The professional kicked him very hard and turned him in opposite directions, when she felt he was going to rear she moved his head to the opposite side and turned him. He didn't threaten to buck. She recommended a martingale and said if I got one then he should be fine. She said he is just stubborn and after I tell him whos boss he would be perfect (I didn't want to force him to do something or scold him if he's in pain because I originally thought he was)
         
        04-12-2010, 04:47 PM
      #28
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HalfPass    
    Rissax,
    I am still confused...
    I was reading the threads and came across this thread started by you.

    Blue(:


    You stated you purchased "Blue" for $1200 so I do not understand why you say in one place your on a trial and in another place he is yours....

    For the life of me in the video I know not why the person would longe him on the frozen ground!

    While I think he is cute. It would be nice to see some video of him being ridden.

    Something is going on with him and before getting in to deep I would want to know what that is.
    I hate to see you purchase him and then the issues become worse or you find that you two are not suited for one another.

    Can you take photos of the tack your using while it is on him?

    Let us know....
    HP
    Ps...love his face
    He is on trial but I was purchasing him for $1200 like I said I was already claiming him since he is at my moms house, I'm paying his food, I'm riding him, I am paying for everything. But after I told his owner what he is doing she lowered his price to $600

    I can take some pictures of the tack when I get back down to the barn. He is at my moms house so I'm not going today.
         
        04-12-2010, 05:02 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    I think that Half Pass made some excellent points. I would really have the owner out and ride him (in a saddle) and monitor how she does with him.

    I would also make sure to have him vetted up the wazoo, have a saddle fitter check his saddle and definitely have a professional trainer help you out.

    When I first got my mare, she sounded a lot like your gelding. She is very stubborn too, but I had to check with every professional I could first, to make sure there wasn't some underlying problem that couldn't be fixed. Horses are big, expensive animals, and it's not worth having a horse that is a pain in the butt, potentially dangerous and not enjoyable.
         
        04-12-2010, 06:41 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    I've thought about it and I think that the problem is you DO know what to do, you just don't want to do it. I think that if you were to be absolutely honest with yourself you would admit that you are realizing that this horse is not the horse you thought you were getting. You know what you need to do - but you are emotional about it, your heart is set on this horse being "the one" and so you are trying to MAKE the horse "the one" by ignoring or explaining away the obvious issues. I think you know that the right thing to do is to get while the getting is good, but you don't want to.
         

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