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    02-10-2012, 09:30 AM
  #31
Weanling
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Actually, that depends. IF this mare is an issue and is endangering other horses or owners, it is very much the BO's business. After all, it is her liability if something happens. SHe has every right to tell the horse owner to fix it or leave. My guess is she may have told this owner to fix it, and that has not happened.
I am not thinking we are getting the whole story...something is just not right.
I'm surprised that people would think that a kicking horse in a barn would not be the barn owner's business. ?? I would be leaving that barn and taking MY money elsewhere if he/she were totally oblivious to this horse's problems and claimed it was "none of their business."

The whole story, I believe, is yet to be told.
     
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    02-10-2012, 10:06 AM
  #32
Weanling
I don't get it, she's your horse, so you have the say, right?
Tell the BO you don't want anyone working with your horse but you. If she doesn't respect that, it's time to move girl!
     
    02-10-2012, 10:33 AM
  #33
Showing
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
IF this mare is an issue and is endangering other horses or owners, it is very much the BO's business.
Yep, she has a business to run and an obligation to her other boarders to keep their horses safe.

If the OP's mare is causing problems and the owner can't or won't step in to fix them, then the BO working with the mare may be the only solution, other than throwing her out of the barn.

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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
I am not thinking we are getting the whole story...something is just not right.
I'm with you, Frank. My gut is telling me there's much more to this story than just a BO overstepping her boundaries.
     
    02-10-2012, 10:42 AM
  #34
Banned
The BO certainly has a responsibility to maintain a reasonably safe environment.

Having said that, there is the right way and the wrong way to go about it in this situation.

The right way is to discuss the matter with the horse's owner and do these things:

1) Convey to the horse owner the behavior that is considered dangerous or unsafe.

2) Come up with a mutually agreed plan to correct the behavior.

OR

3) Evict the horse from the barn if
A) The horse's behavior cannot be modified or
B) The BO and the HO cannot agree on a course of action.

The wrong way to do it is to unilaterally tell the horse's owner that someone from the barn will train the behavior out of the horse whether the owner agrees to it or not. This is the situation that I understand is happening from the statements made by the OP.

So put me in the camp of wanting to know which of those two scenarios is what really happened.
     
    02-10-2012, 10:51 AM
  #35
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Actually, that depends. IF this mare is an issue and is endangering other horses or owners, it is very much the BO's business. After all, it is her liability if something happens. SHe has every right to tell the horse owner to fix it or leave. My guess is she may have told this owner to fix it, and that has not happened.
I am not thinking we are getting the whole story...something is just not right.
Absolutely.

Our policy is if the horse is a danger to humans, other animals or property, there is no requirement of a 30 day notice - the horse booted off the property.
     
    02-10-2012, 11:06 AM
  #36
Showing
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Originally Posted by mls    
Our policy is if the horse is a danger to humans, other animals or property, there is no requirement of a 30 day notice - the horse booted off the property.
Going OT, but what do you consider to be a "danger"? Just curious since you are a BO with long-term experience.
     
    02-10-2012, 12:59 PM
  #37
Weanling
I don't think any of us can assume there is more to the story. I know of a few barns where the BO wouldnt think twice about riding or working with a boarders horse, even using them for lessons, and although it is wrong there are some out there. On the other hand there are alot more honest and wonderful people out there trying to run a legit business and supply a safe and secure environment for all concerned. If the horse is a kicker perhaps it should be put in a box stall.
If there isnt one available maybe the BO didnt know the horse was a kicker until it was already in the barn.
Im sure the BO will make a decision in any case to either evict or work with the horse....no way to know for sure based on what we know..it would be making assumptions on our part.
Perhaps the original poster will come back on here and fill us in on the whole story at some point.
I still think if the BO thinks the horse is a danger the first thing is to ask what the owner is going to do about it, and if nothing is the answer, send them packing. I do not think the BO should work with the horse against the owners wishes in any situation...
     
    02-10-2012, 01:47 PM
  #38
Showing
Another vote for not getting the whole story.

It's one thing if your horse is a danger to others in the facility. The BO is responsible for creating a safe environment in the barn. It's a completely different thing to have someone decide to work with your horse for no other reason that to work with him. What exactly is your horse's vice, and have you tried to work with him to make him less of a danger?
     
    02-10-2012, 01:57 PM
  #39
Super Moderator
Sorry, but there has to be more to the story. Is the OP boarding under an agreement that the BO uses te horse in a lesson program? That might explain why she seems to have no say in how the BO uses her horse. It would be nice if the OP would explain things more clearly. It's hard to make sense of things as they are now.
     
    02-10-2012, 02:03 PM
  #40
Green Broke
OP-"The horse kicks when other horses are behind her and the barn manager is afraid she will injure someone."

This is all she said about the kicking. It really doesn't say where or what the mare is doing at the time, being ridden, tied or on her own time.
     

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