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        05-17-2012, 12:30 PM
      #11
    Trained
    She knows how to relax in the arena...I can put my hand down and she goes wherever I point her with my seat, voice, and legs. I guess that's why it's hard for me to understand why the trails are so hard for her to get.

    I don't think the hills would sour her....I mean, we aren't going to do it all day, but the way I see if she's not going to try and kill me if I'm making her work since obviously she's taken it upon herself to make the trails a difficult place to be even though I've been trying to make it her "calm place" by working hard at the arena and then trying to let her walk calmly on the trials but she just doesn't go for it. And like I said earlier, when I am moving her around and stuff and making her work she's not bad....I don't know, maybe it's right just to leave her be on it. I still have Rebel to take me out on trails and he's a phenomenal trail horse.
         
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        05-17-2012, 12:37 PM
      #12
    rob
    Weanling
    There you go.you've fixed your own problem.let selene do her barrels and sorting in the pen,and walk her and relax her there,and let rebel be your trail horse.now you're thinking like a young trainer.
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        05-17-2012, 01:42 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Thanks Rob....I wish she could be the horse I want her to be on the trails, but I don't think it's going to help either of us right now....Maybe once she's old and calm
         
        05-17-2012, 03:09 PM
      #14
    Super Moderator
    Hahahaha old AND calm? Good luck.

    ;)
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        05-17-2012, 05:15 PM
      #15
    mls
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    She knows how to relax in the arena...I can put my hand down and she goes wherever I point her with my seat, voice, and legs. I guess that's why it's hard for me to understand why the trails are so hard for her to get.

    I don't think the hills would sour her....I mean, we aren't going to do it all day, but the way I see if she's not going to try and kill me if I'm making her work since obviously she's taken it upon herself to make the trails a difficult place to be even though I've been trying to make it her "calm place" by working hard at the arena and then trying to let her walk calmly on the trials but she just doesn't go for it. And like I said earlier, when I am moving her around and stuff and making her work she's not bad....I don't know, maybe it's right just to leave her be on it. I still have Rebel to take me out on trails and he's a phenomenal trail horse.
    So why do you come and ask questions if you have no intention of even trying the advice?

    Sure she relaxes in the arena. That is ALL the poor thing knows. She has no wall or rail for security on trail. She needs her rider to give that to her. It's not that hard!
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        05-17-2012, 05:26 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Can you trail ride her ... Not on a trail? Like alongroads and feilds that's. What my. Boys. Started with but I run a lot of trails... Me and my boy don't like walking much
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        05-17-2012, 07:44 PM
      #17
    Trained
    Mls - If you look back I AM actually taking advice, even if it's not the advice you agree with. And my poor horse? I'm sorry but I find that extremely offensive. Just because she is an excellent performer in the arena suddenly she's a poor creature who's got no life? As for security, I have to be giving that to her ALL the time. Anyone who rides her has to, arena or no arena. She is extremely sensitive and extremely hard to ride. It's easier said than done to give her security. I go out confident but when my life is being put as risk I'm not always going to be flawless. You should have seen her when I first got my hands on her. I couldn't even lope without her totally exploding. I personally think the work that has been done with her so far is pretty phenomenal. Many people told me to give up on her. It's just that this time, since trails are not ever going to be my main forte, I feel that maybe she just doesn't want to be a plodder. I will still try at least once I think to go out and be put right to work.

    Another reason I believe this will help is because she has been used as a ranch horse before. She is NOT a spooky horse. I have been talking with her previous owner and she was used to gather cattle and do chores like that. I did a working rancher class with her and she did great. She rides out in the fields with no problem. I honest to god believe she WANTS a job since it's always the battle when I ask her to walk along quietly. Also, why would she have done SO well on the very first ride I ever took her out on and never since then even though I've tried to make the trails her "calm and relaxed" spot? I don't quite understand that part. Though I should add the first thing we did was do extended trots up a small hill and went right onto a logging road and never really tried to make her go slow (My older gelding who was also on the ride strides out a TON so she had to move a little faster to keep up) If you disagree, please offer me some sort of other advice based off this information...For now I'll take the other advice.

    Anywho, greenbryer,like I said in that above paragraph she goes out in fields. I haven't tried along roads. I've taken her walking with me on the road before but I haven't ridden her except for that logging road, though her pasture borders a major county highway so I can't imagine her not being fine with her.
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        05-17-2012, 07:57 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I can't see you as the la ti da trail person theway you talk about her, lol. I'm. Not I'd try faster competitive trailtraining, that might tickle her fancy. Let us know how the hills go! Best of luck idont think splash would like walking much either
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        05-17-2012, 09:29 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Wel there's two options here. You can give up on her as a trail horse but I'd give it one last shot.

    I'd use approach and retreat. Start next to the arena and work her but start going slowly further away and back again. Keep her working closest to the arena and when she's due a walk break do it the other edge of your new work area. This is difficult to explain so I'll try.

    Ella will soon being Introduced to trails we started in an arena now out in a big paddock. I leave the gate to the arena open and as I'm working her we go out to the front yard back to her 'happy place' and just mix it up. Next step is opening the property gate and riding along the fence of the arena and jumps paddock but on the other side. Then going further and further. As im goin along alot of doubling back. It will take time but again she's working as she normally would so it's not distracting from other goals.

    Does this make any sense?
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        05-17-2012, 09:36 PM
      #20
    Trained
    That makes sense, Prinella. I'll definitely keep that in my little imaginary toolbox :)
         

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