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post #11 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 08:12 AM
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Agree with what's been said already. Just to give you some perspective, we started working with our babies the day they hit the ground. So by the time they will be ready to be broken to ride, they've got almost 3 years of groundwork on them.
One to two months might be enough time to get you in the saddle, but really isn't that long as far as training goes.

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post #12 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 08:20 AM
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Honestly, first thing that comes to mind when a BO (that is not being paid as a trainer for you) tries to slow your plans down when they know your plans to move is to make more money. If your goal takes longer, BO is going to make more money than you initially planned in boarding fees for another month or two.

That's all I have to say though, I only read the OP.
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post #13 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 05:55 PM
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I think you are skipping a lot of important steps.
Before you get on the horse at all, you need to do a lot of groundwork with him until he knows that you are the boss and his attention and focus is on you.
There are a few other steps you might be skipping, but my brain is dead right now, hehe!

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post #14 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 06:30 PM
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BO needs to mind his own business.
If you are happy with how he's working, carry on.
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post #15 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 07:43 PM
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How do you all know she is skipping steps? She has not gone into depth on her training. She gave a generalization and from that sounds like she has not missed anything.

I think your BO might be trying to slow you down. IF he is getting mad at you not buying from his shop hes in it for the money.

If the horse is responsive in a side pull, doing everything you ask sounds like he is progressing. I know a lady who took over 1 year to train her horse (the horse was under saddle for a year before she loped it lol), but she was taking her time. Then you have to look at the extreme mustang makeover people, who take wild horses from wild to reining patters and jumping fire in 100 days. Take your time. It might help if you post vids of you working with him though.
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post #16 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

For one I guess when I said "skip steps" I did mean rush through them not skip them completely. For instance I was told to bit him for a month, drive for a month, sit (no moving) on him for a month, but at his rate he is doing everything in about 2 weeks and sometimes even less!

I also did not go into depth on everything I have worked with but he had lots of ground work before me and he gets a lesson everyday on ground work, manners, and everything basic about his care ect. :)

As far as the BO goes I did notice his behavior change after I stopped buying from his shop because he sold me several tack items that were so dry (leather) they cracked and broke and many things that didn't fit my horse and he wouldn't take a return because it had "been used". So I think he is upset that I won't buy from him as I don't think he has mine or my horses best interest. He won't help me, but when he sees me all he does is tell me I am doing it wrong. I have asked him to explain and or show me and he says he is busy and goes to sit and watch TV in the lounge so I am catching on to his game.
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post #17 of 24 Old 07-05-2013, 10:24 PM
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I would talk with your BO. It may be that he is seeing something you aren't and there is a method to his madness. I have seen trainers drag things out though with no consideration for the horse or rider. I would still talk with him.
There's nothing wrong with a plan, but that plan needs to be adjustable.
In the end it is your horse though you have the final say.

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post #18 of 24 Old 07-06-2013, 10:07 AM Thread Starter
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Forgot to ad that when I first moved there he said "us working together we can break this horse in no time" I felt he was offering his help. The first time he helped me he led my horse around while he was learning to drive and long line for all of 15 minutes until I started on my own and he wanted $50! I didnt feel that was fair. All in all I can't talk to him as he pretends that nothing is going on so I just can't wait to get him home. My neighbor is very experienced and I am sure she will be a big help.
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post #19 of 24 Old 07-06-2013, 12:48 PM
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If you have to ask us, you don't know what you're doing and shouldn't be attempting to "train" him.
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post #20 of 24 Old 07-08-2013, 06:05 AM
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How dose she not sound like she knows what she is doing? Really? I know a lady who is a trainer and she beats the horses until they become mean or have bloody marks on them, and no one thinks she is wrong (and she takes FOREVER to train them). I have seen people brake a horse and not have gaps in a month of constant work (cutting horse trainer who is the father of Lee Francois) and be the softest most willing horses. People come HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS! If people are going to be criticized for using THE RESOURCE given then it should not be here! She is asking honest questions. She is getting feedback from a trainer that she was making her question herself. Can ANY of you tell me you have to just SIT on a horse for a MONTH and not do anymore? A week or a few days maybe but an entire month? Seriously!

Undante Why don't you post a vid of what you are doing and ave done so people can see where you are.
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