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    04-25-2010, 11:56 PM
  #1
Foal
i feel like people dont take this into consideration

As much as they should. I work at a riding stable and so a lot of customers that want to ride MOST of them, are quite large. Our weight limit is 240 and youd be surprised how many 240+ people want to ride. (the obesity in this country has gotten to be rediculous) the weight limit is very very strict - no exceptions. And we have the right horses for heavier people. But it seems like when I go to shows or just seeing people that come out to ride with their own horses on the trails - 70% of them are too big for their horses. Theres quite a few older women that have finely built walking horses but the women are 200 lbs and up and they ride for a good 2-3 hours. (and let me tell you they can barely ride a stick horse - as my boss would say) and girls that are barrel racing but are too heavy for their lighter built QH's. And I also understand that if you only ride like an hour a day - some extra weight is not going to hurt your horse but if you're going to be running and going up and down hills and jumping and doing tight turns and just any sort of physically demanding activity on your horse- am I wrong to think that you should have an appropriately sized horse?
     
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    04-26-2010, 12:05 AM
  #2
Started
I know what you mean. At one of the schooling shows at my old barn I was really surprised at how mis-matched the horses+riders were, and these weren't people that OWNED these horses, these were people and horses the owner of the barn had assigned, and obviously not taken size into consideration. I applaud heavier people who ride and do what they want to do, but some people don't seem to take into consideration the safety of themselves and their horses. One very heavy girl was riding a short, fine boned, loooong backed pony, and you could literally see the horse straining... and then there was a teeny little thing in the same class who could barely handle the big, well-built warmblood they'd sat her on. It didn't make sense.
     
    04-26-2010, 12:19 AM
  #3
Trained
Yes, I think that it needs to be taken into consideration, but remember HEIGHT in itself does not determine whether a horse and rider will suit one another. A well built QH will be a much better partner for a 'stocky' built 200lb gal or guy, than a stringy tall TB, even if that QH is only 14hh. QH were bred to handle remuda work, and a decently bred one will have the bone, conformation, muscle, and stamina for the heavier work load, including a heavy ranch rider...most cowpoke ain't string beans...they need muscle you know!

I think there is more to fitting a horse and rider than just 'size' alone, because some riders buy a big horse, just because they think bigger is better, when in reality, they may not have the experience it takes to handle that larger horse. And then there's those who hang onto a smaller horse, because they like it too much, even though it may not be suitable for them size wise anymore.

It's one of those things about horse ownership that comes down to responsibility and learning what's acceptable and what's not; I don't think it's acceptable to have someone who is 200lbs on a 650lb horse; yet I've seen it done. The horse might even be close to 15hh...but as I said before, height isn't the factor here, it's weight, bone, and muscle that should be the determining factors in 'rider suitability'. But a horse who is 1000lbs, regardless of his height, would have no problems, imo carrying that same rider.
     
    04-26-2010, 12:20 AM
  #4
Foal
Mhmm and theres a difference between a 200 lb person that can RIDE and a 200 lb potato sack. But still - its about the well being of the horse IMO. Sometimes well pass people out on trail and the other trailguide and I will just look at each other and wince.
     
    04-26-2010, 12:25 AM
  #5
Foal
Right it really isnt about height - unless your legs are below your horses knees. And the build of the horse definitely is involved too. And rider ability. I agree you can put a 200 lb person on 1000 lb horse but if they ride like a sack of potatoes - its going to make a difference after a longer period of time and depends on what you're DOING with your horse.
     
    04-26-2010, 01:15 AM
  #6
Green Broke
A friend of mine at work asked to ride my horses recently, and without thinking I told him he was too big. He took a little offense to that, but my horses aren't that big & he is probably 200+. My largest horse is about 1000 lbs, 14.2 hands, & out of shape. She might have been able to carry him when she was all muscled out, but I wouldn't do that to her now.
     
    04-26-2010, 01:29 AM
  #7
Green Broke
Oh why were on the subject. My 5 year old is about 900lbs. She is a mustang/arab cross, short back, & narrow chest. I trail ride mostly. The shortest time I am usually out is 2 hours, usually 4 to 6 though. Just out of curiosity what is the heaviest person you would put on her.
     
    04-26-2010, 03:28 AM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by bellatink89    
right it really isnt about height - unless your legs are below your horses knees. And the build of the horse definitely is involved too. And rider ability. I agree you can put a 200 lb person on 1000 lb horse but if they ride like a sack of potatoes - its going to make a difference after a longer period of time and depends on what you're DOING with your horse.
Any rider who rides like a sack of potatoes is going to cause damage regardless of weight, give me a 190 lb woman with great skill on my horse over a 90 lb stick that slams on his back any day.
     
    04-26-2010, 06:50 AM
  #9
Started
It's a problem if they're riding a horse that's too small for them. But it's a problem for themselves as well.

My brother has alot of bigger friends who come over for their "girls night" (he's gay) and they always complain about being too fat or no boys like me, or something that always has to do with their weight. I sit there listening to what they have to say and I say, "why don't you join a gym" and they get so pissed and say, "DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BE FAT, I'VE TRIED LOSING WEIGHT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES". As they're all ganging up on me they have a bag of Doritos in one hand and ice cream in the other.. No lie

America is just so used to having everything in their reach, and we're lazy, and disgusting. I know I probably sound ignorant but it IS problem and unless you have some crazy medical issue that makes you fat, YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF. Even if it's a "thyroid issue". Sorry, I don't know why I have a grudge. I suppose the only time I do is when they complain about bring fat but are too lazy to help themselves. I mean if they don't complain then I don't care.

And I get that it's hard, I really do, but people just have to many excuses as to why they are overweight. If you eat right and exercise you WILL loose weight. No it won't happen overnight (which is another problem, America always wants to take a shortcut and have overnight results) but it WILL happen.


Just my two cents.. :/ Haha, can you tell that I've had this conversation a time or two?
     
    04-26-2010, 07:34 AM
  #10
Banned
A horse can carry 25% of his weight over a 50 mile endurance coarse and finish successfully.
I weigh 194 pounds, with tac I weighed in at 220, that's water included. My horse weighed 970 pounds and I ran over 30 50 mile races on him and never once was he pulled or seemed to have a problem. Never lame in a logged 30,000 miles of his 17 year career.
A 1200 pound quarter horse would have no problems with 300 pounds and I don't beleive these fat ladies ride 2 and 3 hours??
People don't have that much stamina and if they are they would only walk.
Fat people have feels too
     

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