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post #1 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 12:41 AM Thread Starter
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I feel really stupid for asking this, but....

My mare is very very very rushy at the canter. Obviously I would like to train her into a slower, calmer, more collected canter, but for the life of me I can't get it!
I have tried circling her smaller and letting the circle slow her down... goodness I have never ridden a horse that can speed through a 5m circle like that little devil. Sometimes it works, but as soon as I ask her back on a larger circle and she loses her tempo, she's back to buzzing around the ring.
Half-halting is not working at the moment. She needs to learn to accept my rein pressure before that happens correctly. At present she just pops her nose up in the air and actually runs blind.
Checking and giving is no avail either... it seems that the more rein is there, the more she rushes - almost like she's been trained like a thoroghbred that bit pressure = fast.

Other than the canter, her training has come really far, and I couldn't be happier...

I am up for any new ideas.


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post #2 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 12:46 AM
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How is she on the lunge line?

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post #3 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 12:54 AM Thread Starter
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JR, she is Rushy. Yes, with a capital R.

HOWEVER... I took her out for a hack the other day and went for a canter in a field.. and she went really nicely - I guess that could have been due to the grass that was almost literally growing above her withers! Anyways, she was nice and slow then....


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post #4 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 12:57 AM
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Hmmm, my mare Jubilee is rushy too, but its workable. Is she rushy at the trot too? Or just the canter. Because I was going to suggest trotting poles, but she can't really do that at a canter ....

When you ask her for a canter, does she just explode and take off? Like is she almost galloping? Or does she just have a big stride?

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JR - no, she doesn't have a big stride, nor is she near galloping. It's a short, very fast stride. Her trot is easy to control, I can get her to collect or extend very easily at a trot... which is really making me wonder just what the heck is going on that I can't figure her canter out. I'm beginning to feel really stupid, and am thinking of sending her to a trainer for a couple weeks just to get that sorted out. It's rediculous and so small that it's getting me really frusterated.


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like someone said, does she rush into canter too?

every time she starts to rush you could make her stop, one rein stop in a circle. halt her then start again she'll get sick of bolting forwards only to have to run in a circle straight after!

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How much are you using your seat? Are you resisting her, trying to set the rythym with your seat? That might help.
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I would not send her to a trainer just yet. I would assume you would have as much luck with her as many trainers would...and I don't know how trainers are around you - but you don't always know what you will get when sending them out.

I would just keep working at it, and puting the hours on. Relax your body and "coo" to her rhythmically (I know it sounds corny, but I find that it sometimes helps). Give her lots of praise when she gets it right, even for a few strides.

Are your half halts good at the trot? If not, I would go back and perfect those there, then take them up at the canter again. Since she pops her head up and runs blind, I would work on some excersises at the walk just focused on dropping the nose when she feels contact...so you can use that at the canter later.

Keep up the good work JDI, and she will get it eventually.
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When she rushes do you get stiff? I used to tense up and that didn't really help. Make sure you relax and sing a tune to her in the rhythm you want to go in. Works for me :)

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How long have you been working on her canter for?? It may be that she is yet to ballance herself at that pace while having the weight of a rider on her back?
If she is working well when you ride out, I would school her out on the trail instead of the arena for a while, and then bring her back to the school and see if she realizes that she can go slow.

You might be able to try a running martingale if she is throwing her head up, or maybe another headset device to show her how she should carry herself, but once she gives to it Id remove it straight away so that she developes self carrage.

Thats my best advice and would be the first thing Id try. Other than schooling with an instructor.
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