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post #21 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 11:20 PM
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I just finished watching Clinton Anderson's video on riding and he said if your horse wants to canter fast, let them (as long as they don't rush into a gallop), then when they want to stop, keep them cantering, and then when you think they can't go anymore, do some more.
I certainly agree with this for some horses and I'm sure it's an effective technique. However, it's definitely not possible with all horses. When I started working with my horse, he was so fast and so athletic that he would just about never wear out, and was always looking for any opportunity to transition to a gallop.

Clinton Anderson is usually quick to say that not every technique works with every horse, so I'm not suggesting that he was saying so. I just remember people suggesting this to me with Buster and thinking that it would be dangerous for me to try because I wasn't at all sure that I could keep him in a canter, and he could go for a long, long time without tiring.

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post #22 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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Thank you for the wonderful post, JackieB!! That gives me hope! She's wonderful at the walk and trot (I can get her to extend and collect no problem) but the canter is like a foreign language... and just like learning a "new language" it has to go slowly
You're most welcome. I'm glad that you found my comments to be helpful. It really does sound to me like she's coming along wonderfully.

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post #23 of 30 Old 07-23-2008, 11:39 PM Thread Starter
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Unfortunately I tried "Clinton's" technique (I say it in parentheses because I didn't look to him for the technique) and it didn't work. She was breathing really hard and literally dripping sweat, and still raring to go.
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post #24 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 04:11 AM
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when I fisrt got my boy I had the same prob he had a very bad habit for it and no matter what I did h always had his way soo I used to just canter him through it because with his previous owner it was his way of geeting out of work so if you stpped he got away with it soo I would canter and canter and canter untill he did it the way I wanted!! (if he was out on a trek I had no prob becoz then he wanted to canter!!) and the other thing was asking to stop he would not for the life of me stop if he wanted to canter you couldnt get him to stop but he would still rush soi would stop halt and rein 3 steps bak ask him to walk on trot then pick up his canter again do a circle and ask him to trot if he didnt we did the same thing eventually he gts bored and behaves!!

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post #25 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 10:19 AM
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Gah... JDI, clam down! Lol Look how much you have accomplished in 5 months!!!! It took my 5 months to touch Dumas's forehead!!! You have done some pretty fantastic things with her in a VERY short amount of time! Girl, go for a trail ride or just a happy hack out and about that is different from your usual routine...You and Maia DESERVE IT! Go work on her strengthening and enjoy your time together while she builds the necessary muscle to further her training! I'm SO jealous and PROUD OF YOU!!!!!

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post #26 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 11:02 AM
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heres some things you can try, because if I havent worked my horse in a while and go straight into asking him to do a nice slow collected canter it's hard for him, so I let him on a loose reign canter around the ring a couple of times to stretch out then bring him back to a walk and collect him then go into the canter, that usually works.

But bc ur horse is not broke heres some other things to try, put a pole on the ground and do circles over it so that the horse has to have her head down to pay attention and put the at different spots and canter over them.

The other thing you can try because my gelding used to do the same thing was make a rig, it teaches them to balance themselves, all you do is get some rope and one of those clasps that you can clip the the bit and thread the rope thru the bottom, you tie one piece of the rope to the top of ur girlth right under ur leg, it goes thru the clasp connected to the bit and then the other piece of rope you tie towards ur horses tummy to it creates a triangle from the top of girth to the bit to ur ankel. I know this sounds weird but then the horse is only pulling on itself and learns to balance itself along with learning to keep a frame, after a while when they learn to keep their head down you can take it off, or you can continue to use it and teach the horse to go up into the bit. The great thing is you can use it when you lunge or when ur riding and its so cheap to make. I used this on my horse for about a month or so and now he has to go in a frame or he gets upset because he goes into a frame all on his own.

If ur still confused just ask and I can try to explain it a little more.

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post #27 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 11:28 AM
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I just finished watching Clinton Anderson's video on riding and he said if your horse wants to canter fast, let them (as long as they don't rush into a gallop), then when they want to stop, keep them cantering, and then when you think they can't go anymore, do some more. He said that horses that like to go faster than necessary (for the most part) just need miles under them, then they tend to slow it down. To get better at the canter, they need to canter a lot. I don't know personally how this works though. My guy is young and doing the same with rushing the canter, so I am going to start trying CA's theory out for myself soon to see how it works.
haha I did that yesterday with my horse...didnt work. I did it for like 15 minutes, she was sweating and still giving it and leaning too. I have the same problem :P
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post #28 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 12:53 PM Thread Starter
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Dumas, thank you for your very kind words, they were much appreciated. That's the thing that gets me! We were on a hack last week and she cantered beautifully!! Even did a flying change!!!

I am getting fairly regular lessons from a friend of mine (amazing lady, if anyone is in my area and wants a new trainer, I have a phone number for you) and that is helping a ton. She's not letting me get frusterated with Maia and is praising the little accomplishments, which is what both Maia and me need

We are working on it, it's just a matter of time though...


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post #29 of 30 Old 07-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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Rolf, It has been really wet here lately, so I haven't tried CA's canter technique myself yet. He isn't the flighty, go-go-go kind of horse, so I am hoping that it will work for us...I think it will.
JDI, good luck! You have already done a fantastic job with Maia, I know you will work this out too.
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post #30 of 30 Old 07-25-2008, 12:18 AM
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hey JDI, just thinking if your still having problems...

How are you half halting?

What I found really works, (my mare also pops her head up in canter when I half halt and she's rushing a lot) glue your inside elbow to your side, then check back, take your outside elbow back a few inches then give again and bring it back to normal position.

Everyone did say though, to just relax, you will get there!
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