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    11-21-2012, 10:21 PM
i have 3 problems please need advice!

Hello everyone well my fiance and I went riding today with all my 4 nephews. Well Cloud is still real spooky he is only 3 years old though. And we have a little problem he walks and trots fine but when he goes to canter or gallop he starts to buck.

Let me explain. Cloud and I were following my fiance while he was leading one of my nephews and he was running while she was trotting so, cloud started trotting fine then all of a sudden it seems like he gets excited so he like lifts his front feet a little and has a power surge lol to get up and run! But when I did that he lifted his back then front then back again about the 4th time he bucked I flew forward and landed on my back! HARD.

Im not sure if he knows how to run under saddle. I don't think he was ever really taught that before.. he's usually one of the most loving calm attitude horse that's there.

Problem number 2 is lunging.. as soon as my fiance picks up the whip he backs up and starts to lift his front end like he is scared. How can we stop that?

He also is kinda lazy lol and when he sees food grass trees or anything he will stop and eat ( he's not starving he gets fed 3 times a day ) and its a pain to get him away and walk on.. any idea how to fix it?
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    11-21-2012, 10:31 PM
Cloud is just young and needs more training.

It's normal for horses to get excited when the hrose in front of them runs, so cloud , being young , got especially excited. He could also have some issues witht the saddle, which when he canters, become more than he can tolerat. Or it's jsut the movement of the saddle, or it could be you got nervous and started gripping hard onto his sides.

There's a number of things it could be. But the bottom line is cloud is basically a baby, who needs more training before being used to canter in a group, or ridden by children or inexperienced riders.

Don't blame him or think there are three seperate issues here. They are really one and the same; more time training with a clear leader.

Sounds kind of general, but it's true. Just don't look at it like I need to fix these little problems , 1,2,3. What you need to do is get him in a round pen, work him without a saddle so that when you say "forward", he goes.
Work on leading him correctly, and for that you can take some training from videos such as Julie Goodnight, or clinton anderson, or ? Many others out there.

And you need to round pen him with the saddle on, so he gets more experience cantering with one on. And be very sure the saddle fits correctly, so that it is not pinching or otherwise causing pain, 'cause that'll for sure make a youngster buck, and that's a bad habit to allow to get started.
    11-21-2012, 10:45 PM

I think he is quite young (In my opinion) to be galloping and cantering. He is very young and they do have a mind of their own.

I agree he needs more training, but take it slow and work on desensitizing him. A good gallop I would think would come 5/6 years old. (Where they know how to hold themselves and the rider)

As far as the whip goes, he could have had a bad previous experience with it or is just scared. Work on holding him on the lead line and slowly bringing it up to him, working on desensitizing him, not just with the whip but bags, etc.

For the walking and eating grass, you need to let him know that it is a NO-NO for him to do that. Have enough slack to let him walk but as SOON as you feel him pulling downward, you need to say "NO!!" and pull him along.

It sounds like all of these things are easy to fix in time
Good luck!
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    11-21-2012, 10:52 PM
1. Get him more broke. Teach him in a work setting how to carry himself at the lope. When you ride him out, if he wants to buck and run off, then get him stopped, and put him to work. Don't put him in situations to fail. If he's never been loped under saddle and you are asking him to on a trail ride with other horses, he is getting set up for failure.

2. Get him to go forward. Step off to the opposite side of the direction you want him to go (so you are driving him forward) and send him on. Don't let him continue to face you, and pop the whip if you need to. He's not scared. He's just not broke.

3. Yank his teeth out. No excuse.

Don't baby him. Teach him.
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    11-22-2012, 12:24 PM
At 3 balance is likely the issue. He was afraid of being left behind but didn't know how to balance himself at the canter, Because this frightens a colt it will often trigger bucking. His thinking shut down and he went in to survival mode. When you take him to the round pen be sure to keep the tip of the lunge whip almost on the ground and to your side. Signal the direction with the other arm and kiss or click with your tongue. If he's not sure what to do begin to raise the whip while still sideways and jiggle it a little. If he moves at all, lower the whip. If he stops, ask again then again barely raise the whip. You will learn how much to raise the whip by how he responds. If someone is overzealous with the whip he will react the best way he can think of. It will go well and it will go badly. Forgive his mistakes as he will forgive yours.
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    11-22-2012, 11:09 PM
I agree with what everyone has posted.....he's young and needs lots of time/patience still. I have a 3yr. Old which we just started under saddle this fall, he is my mare's so he was born here. He knows all the ground work and how to lunge which was taught to him when he was little (no I didn't work him lots, a few mins. Here and there). We finally got him walking in the round pen with a rider, me and a friend have both been working with him, I use the bareback pad/halter and my friend uses the saddle/bridle. He's got the winter off now, my round pen is full of snow and I don't want him to slip and have a bad experience....that and I want to take it slow with him.......he's still growing too......my mare I got when she was 3 and she's now 10, she was rode for 30 days when I got her and I did alot of ground work with her and I don't think I cantered her that first year....just walk/trot.....

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