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post #11 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 11:07 AM
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I'm with everyone else that a professional needs to be sought for this horse. Hopefully someone who knows how to deal with a horse like this as Spirithorse said.
I also think all medical and physical issues need to be dealt with first. Is he in some sort of pain? Is he being fed a "hot" feed that may be causing him to act this way? Something has to have changed this previously good horse that you could ride and compete on, into a vicious, wild, cribbing attack horse. Either some external or internal problem.


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post #12 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 11:50 AM
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Amen! There is no way I'd let my kids be anywhere near this horse. This situation is a disaster waiting to happen. Please, please stay away from this horse.

Look, it's almost 1:30 in the the morning here and I'm up because my baby (she's 10 1/2) is very sick. She's got pneumonia and she's been on oxygen for more than a week. She's taken a turn for the worse tonight. As her mommy, this is horrible. I hate watching my beautiful little girlie struggle to live and be healthy. Please don't put your parents in the position of sitting by your bedside after you've suffered an injury at the hands (or hooves, I should say) of this horse.
Joshie, we'll say a prayer for your little one.

Whimsical, I can't add any more to the good advise you've been given. I hope you are not foolish enough to ignore it.

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post #13 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 12:25 PM
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Joshie, we'll say a prayer for your little one.
Thanks. She seems better this morning. I think she did too much yesterday. We went to hug Joshua yesterday.

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Joshie - I too will be keeping your "baby" in my thoughts and prayers.

Whimsical - Personally I'd be very suspicious of such a dramatic turn in such a short amount of time. Seems like a red flag of some sort. If it were me I'd start with the vet. Best of luck to you.
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post #15 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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I think Dumas hit the nail on the head, something is not right medically with this horse. A horse that was formally easy to handle that goes bad needs to have a full vet evaluation.
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post #16 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Im so sorry... I hope your daughter is better soon. She will stay In my Prayers.

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Amen! There is no way I'd let my kids be anywhere near this horse. This situation is a disaster waiting to happen. Please, please stay away from this horse.

Look, it's almost 1:30 in the the morning here and I'm up because my baby (she's 10 1/2) is very sick. She's got pneumonia and she's been on oxygen for more than a week. She's taken a turn for the worse tonight. As her mommy, this is horrible. I hate watching my beautiful little girlie struggle to live and be healthy. Please don't put your parents in the position of sitting by your bedside after you've suffered an injury at the hands (or hooves, I should say) of this horse.

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post #17 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 09:19 PM
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That's ok if you disagree with me. Such is life. But you don't think a horse knows when his dignity is being taken away? I'm not trying to argue, just curious. You can see it in their eyes.....ever seen a horse that just looks broken? I have, and it's so sad. There is no light, no spirit, no dignity. And when people do horrible things to horses, like some show people do for the sake of winning, don't you think the horse knows it's being done TO him? There is no dignity in that. And I'm not suggesting horses think like people. You know me better than that! Lol. Horses are more perceptive than people sometimes think.
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post #18 of 21 Old 10-17-2008, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, Everyone's advice is so good. And I thank you all so so much. I should add some more things about Jack. We bought him when he was 4 years old, from a western breeding farm where his training involved being kicked a lot and tied all night when he misbehaved. The woman who owned him was pretty "experienced" and I was ten years old at the time and my aunt was inexperienced, She fell "in love" with him and asked me if I wanted a horse, I was a ten year old horse crazy girl, of course I wanted my first horse. We moved Jack to a new barn a few months later and he picked up the habit of cribbing from a horse stalled next to him. He also began trying to kick my aunt or I. We figured out that he had Lyme disease and Ulcers. So that all can contribute to his crankiness I'd assume. We moved him again probably a year later, where he got much better and that's when we started competing. When our trainer moved out of state a year later, we stayed for a few months with the new owner and then left again. Jack got his shoes removed and he had way too long of a vacation for "recovery" That's when he became grumpy and not fun. When We bought Tulie Last June, Jack got pushed to the side, being ridden by random people. We moved him home with Solo about a year after that. So that's basically Jack's Life story....

Again, thank you all so much.
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Recent studies have shown that horses do not pick up cribbing from other horses. It's thought that the cribbing action is an attempt to produce more saliva to help reduce excess stomach acid. It's vital that the horse has acess to forage at all times. How did you treat him for ulcers? I would see if your vet thinks it's a good idea to treat him with Ulcer-Guard paste.

Being ridden by a lot of different people would drive some horses nuts. That's one thing that my warmblood hated, being handled by so many different people. He just couldn't tolorate it. Some horses can't, and the ones who can are saints! God bless them.

It sounds like Jack has had enough experiences in life to make him act aggressive. I mean, tying him up all night when he was "bad?" You can't tell me Jack didn't know that was being done TO him. Where is the dignity in that?
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You can see it in their eyes.....ever seen a horse that just looks broken? I have, and it's so sad. There is no light, no spirit, no dignity. And when people do horrible things to horses, like some show people do for the sake of winning, don't you think the horse knows it's being done TO him? There is no dignity in that. And I'm not suggesting horses think like people. You know me better than that! Lol. Horses are more perceptive than people sometimes think.
Whenever I go to the local auction and look into horses eyes I can see most of them KNOW why they are there. And most of them look very sad. I don't think horses think like people, but I do think horses have similar feelings and they can think in own way (as well as cats, dogs, etc.).

Sounds like Jack had been through a lot in his life. All I can say selling him down the road most probably will lead to more abuse and/or slaughter (unless someone will step in, but it's not very likely because not too many people want to deal with problem horses).
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