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post #1 of 21 Old 05-11-2010, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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I learned/realized something today!!

Before I actually bought Nova, I was jumping her about 2'..stadium and XC

So for the past 2 weeks I've been focusing on her flat work till today and decided to try her over some jumps... well you know thinking that.. well I was jumping her 2' then whats the difference from then to now... so I set up 1'6 X rail and a 2' vertical jump.... and she went over the 1'6 xrail after a refusal and kept refusing the 2'... and I realized it was because .. back then she was scared to refuse because he would have gotten her butt with the whip thats all she ever worked off of was fear.. and now Im letting her make the mistakes she needs to learn.. so shes letting me know.... anything over 1'6 is out of her confidence zone..after a lot of click and turning her butt around she WOULD go over the 2' vertical but it wasnt fun for her.. and I want jumping to be fun for her!

So after a good jump over the 1'6 without clipping it I ended it and went on a long trail ride to let her brain relax.

But I learned that just because you've done it once before doesnt mean the horse was ready for it or w/e

SO im starting her over 1' bounces then gonna bring it up to 1'6 lines then go up from there slowly :) starting next week probably. Unless if anyone has any other advice to get the confidence up.

But shes getting ground work tomorrow :)
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post #2 of 21 Old 05-11-2010, 07:44 PM
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I would probably starting from ground poles up...especially if she is clipping the current height. Get her picking up her feet properly at w/t/c over the poles, then start with low 'jumps'...

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post #3 of 21 Old 05-11-2010, 07:55 PM
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I agree with m2p. Trot and canter poles, then cavelettis, then baby cross rails, baby verticals, then toddler cross rails and verticals, etc.

HOWEVER. I don't think you should be jumping yet period. She hasn't even been with you two whole weeks. I suggested you solidify her flat work before you started jumping, and there is no way her flat is solid yet. Please take that into consideration. She will be a MUCH better jumper if you wait then if you start now.

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post #4 of 21 Old 05-11-2010, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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And you right, she still has A LOT of work to do on flat. I just felt like changing it up and I over faced her.

So Ill just do flat work with trot poles and such..

Which its funny she will jump, but shes afraid to trot over trot poles.. tell me if that makes sense..
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Makes perfect sense. Trot poles are much closer together and typically several in a row. Jumps are one, maybe two in a row with at least a stride and a half in between, probably more at her current level. =]

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Many horses are afraid of trot poles because they don't know how to handle them. Riding a straight line with an even tempo through trot poles on a green or even less then finished horse is a lot more challenging then people seem to think. Most horses will change speed, the greener ones often try swerving even in the middle, and I've had my fair share of horses who think it would be easier to jump the whole lot of them!

I would agree with everyone else and stick to the flat but start lunging/free jumping her over some low fences. Let her learn to like it first, at her own speed and figuring out her own feet. It never ceases to amaze me how wholesome this can be for a horse, especially one that's learned to be afraid due to the rider.

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Okay so maybe it does lol

Ill work on it :) Thanks!
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So you took a horse that was jumping 2 feet and now she won't jumpat all without refusals and your happy about the training you're doing? I think you should maybe re-evaluate what you're doing.

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Aww, Kevin, don't make her get into that "I'll prove you wrong attitude," we've so desperately been trying to get out of her!

The horse was refusing because she wasn't ready. I don't have to see it to know that's the case. She is pushing her too quickly, not necessarily "screwing up." There's room for it to go that way, but right now, it's just too fast. Slow down, take a breath, give her ample time to learn every little thing, and you'll be fine. Pushing her will only mess her up.

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Ty Ricci - I know I over faced her seeing that she would jump 1'6 fine ... 2' was out of her comfort zone.

If the ex owner were to stand there holding a lunge whip in hand she would go over out of fear. and she wasn't in "jump" training with him, he only free lunged horses over jumps, Nova was just a show off try to sell horse never really got worked with much under saddle. I looked at myself before looking at her and I wasn't doing anything differnt then I was over the 1'6 at least nothing I noticed.

She let me know that 2' was to high and I tried to push which made it worse then it clicked WHY she was refusing. Its only been 2 weeks and I shouldnt have done that

which is why the title is.. I learned something today!

I did :)

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