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        07-27-2009, 03:40 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Training horses is not an assembly line thing. Each horse is different and each horse deserves personalized training. Not all horses are the same, they are different. Therefore, there is not one perfect 'system' for 'one size fits all'. You will have to treat each horse as an individual.
         
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        07-28-2009, 10:40 AM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by RedRoan    
    Well I don't know how people in Saudi Arabia work around race horses but over here local farms use hot walkers to get some exercise beyond the normal turn out and exercise jockey.

    The biggest barn uses a nice hot walker which is closed in and helps the horse to keep going forward but has more freedom for the horse to move around (not turning around though) without the restraint of their head being tied to the device. The panels can move at any speed. But I see mostly horses only going no faster then a trot for safety reasons. Here are some pictures of the kind of hot walker I'm talking about.



    Thank you RedRoan for this valuable information. I'm really grateful for your contribute :)

    The hot walker is a good idea which I didn't know about before!
         
        07-28-2009, 10:50 AM
      #13
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by RiosDad    
    Hot walkers will do nothing to create a race horse. Even jogging miles and miles of trails does nothing to build a speed horse. It is about slow twitch and fast twitch muscles. The only thing that builds these fast twitch muscles is speed work. Build up slow twitch muscles, something you get from long slow distance just slows the horse down.
    The hot walker would do nothing
    Interval training would build the heart but you need a heart rate monitor for that and the knowledge of how to use it and not hurt the horse.]
    You will not get useful information on this board for building a race horse.
    Thank you for posting your point of view regarding the hot walkers.

    I didn't fully understand why wouldn't I find any helpful training guide here!
         
        07-28-2009, 10:52 AM
      #14
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Horse Trainer    
    I didn't fully understand why wouldn't I find any helpful training guide here!
    We are not race horse trainers. We don't have the knowledge and if we did we wouldn't be hanging around here.
    Why would a good trainer post here on how to build a good race horse??
         
        07-28-2009, 11:05 AM
      #15
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by TroubledTB    
    The hot walker is one of the most important tools on the track! Human or mechanical, but, I am not trying to deny Rio's Dad's very good advice, that you will not find suitable knowledge on this board about training race horses, from my understand it's a secretive guild where many horsemen are not allowed to venture or understand. I am curious what farm in Saudi Arabia you must be working for, as there is the famous Godolphin Arabian establishment that I personally choose to bet on regularly at the track. I would also be curious about what kind a of regimine a race horse would be expected to endure, and I would think the eventing people would probably have the best advice for speed conditioning, as cross country demonstrates many of the same demands.
    Thanks TroubledTB for replying.

    Do you think the training guide is secretive thing that shouldn't be revealed! It's bad though!

    Well, you mean my brother not me, he doesn't work for any famous farms. He has his own farm, work and horses.

    Sorry, I can't answer the other stuff you are asking since I'm not directly involved in such a training but my brother asked me to see what things he doesn't know about this field, what new methods that must be different than his. He is doing well as I mentioned before but he asked me (since he doesn't know English) to search for what training guides you guys follow when you train your speed horse :)
         
        07-28-2009, 11:10 AM
      #16
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by sunny06    
    Training horses is not an assembly line thing. Each horse is different and each horse deserves personalized training. Not all horses are the same, they are different. Therefore, there is not one perfect 'system' for 'one size fits all'. You will have to treat each horse as an individual.

    You're absolutely right, but also as horses differ, people's minds differ too and you may have ideas about something that I don't and vice versa and that's why I'm here but it's very disappointing when I know this is some sort of secretive thing : (
         
        07-29-2009, 05:28 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Horse Trainer    
    but it's very disappointing when I know this is some sort of secretive thing : (
    Pardon?
         
        07-29-2009, 06:12 PM
      #18
    Chat Moderator
    Most trainers have there secerts that give them and edge in their event, and they ain't likely to share them

    I didn't know they raced Thoroughbreds were raced in Saudi Arabia, I know that Arabians and camels are raced there. Are long distance endurance races or the western track races mo more than 16 furlongs?
         
        07-31-2009, 04:02 PM
      #19
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by sunny06    
    Pardon?
    It was just some guy who pointed out this info in the thread :)
         
        07-31-2009, 04:16 PM
      #20
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Kentucky    
    most trainers have there secerts that give them and edge in their event, and they ain't likely to share them

    I didn't know they raced Thoroughbreds were raced in Saudi Arabia, I know that Arabians and camels are raced there. Are long distance endurance races or the western track races mo more than 16 furlongs?
    I absolutely understand the firs point about the secretiveness of these techniques but you know I thought I would find some shared programs that you consider as basics because there is usually some ideas you do that differ from us in Saudi Arabia and thought that the secretive things are just some techniques that every trainer would like to save them for himself and these secretive methods are what make him superior to the others.

    About your question, yeah, you are right, arabians and camels are raced here, but the prominient contests are of those thoroughbred speed races :)

    We have also the endurance races but they are rare and in some occaions of the year

    What we have most frequently is the speed thoroughbreds races while but not the short distances; we have the long distances of between 1600 and 2400 meters. (this kind of horse races is the most promenient)

    Ok people, as a newbie, can you tell me the most famous horsemanship forums that discuss speed horse contests? Thank you in advance :)
         

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