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        03-25-2012, 06:12 PM
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    Weanling
    I need to break him of this.

    Okay, I love Patchy with all my hear but it's time to complain I need a solution cause I don't know what to do.
    I ride Patchy most of the time, but my little sister also rides him often. EVERYTIME she rides patchy has learned he can pull the reins out of her hands. He bends his head real far forward and it even brings her forward in the saddle. He doesn't do this to me because I get aggressive with him when he does, (he pulls, I pull hard back and quick right after the action.) It's gotten to where he tries that with anyone that even gets on him! I can't fix the problem, when i'm not the one riding him. What should I do?
         
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        03-25-2012, 06:22 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Unfortunately it has to be the responsibility of the person on his back. If you ALL are not consistent with him, he will keep testing.
         
        03-25-2012, 06:49 PM
      #3
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    Unfortunately it has to be the responsibility of the person on his back. If you ALL are not consistent with him, he will keep testing.
    Yes, thanks I know this, was I doing the correct things by pulling him back immediately?
         
        03-25-2012, 06:53 PM
      #4
    Trained
    That is what I would do. Never let him have his head when he pulls. I would hold steady though instead of necessarily "pulling back" on his face.
         
        03-25-2012, 07:05 PM
      #5
    Yearling
    Agree with SorrelHorse, he is going to do that with whoever is on his back to test them. I also agree with not pulling back.. just keep a firm hold in one spot and make him fight himself rather than you. If you get into a pulling war he is going to win 100% of the time but if you keep your hands in a consistent spot he will know what is expected of him much quicker.
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        03-25-2012, 07:35 PM
      #6
    Green Broke
    How old is your little sister and how long has she been riding? It may be that this just is not the situation for her to be riding in right now if she is not able (either due to size/age strength or lack of skill/knowledge) to correct the issue at this time.
         
        03-25-2012, 07:50 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    Don't let him get away with it

    I see how this could be frusterating. Make what he is doing uncomfortable. What I would do, is when he does it, either turn him in a tight circle right after he does it or back him a few steps. These are things your little sister could do. If you do one of these things EVERY time he does it, he will figure out, "hey wait a second, if I do this I have to turn a circle or back and I don't want to so I think I will just stop doing that'. Try it, that's how I got my horses' bad habit of not wanting to turn "left" resolved. Try it and I hope it works!!
         
        03-25-2012, 07:52 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ichliebepferde    
    Yes, thanks I know this, was I doing the correct things by pulling him back immediately?
    Never jerk a horse or pull back on him, let him figure out himself, that if he does it, he will have to work. Like Clinton Anderson says "move your feet". I have seen one of his clinics and what he says is totally true!
         
        03-25-2012, 08:02 PM
      #9
    Trained
    Never pull back on a horse, classic novice mistake, it's a pull up and never use hands without legs, another big mistake. Don't constantly hold onto his face either, he needs release otherwise you are defeating the whole purpose. Pressure, release/reward. He can't know what he is doing right if you never release him, he's just waiting for an opportunity to throw his head down or up or whatever. It's like collection, you don't hold the horse's mouth, he comes to your hand, hence, on the bit. So remember, if he throws his head down, you pull straight up & give him leg, show your little sis how to do this.
         
        03-25-2012, 09:41 PM
      #10
    Green Broke
    While your riding carry a whip. When he pulls hold your reins firm, tap him with the whip (lightly, just enough to say knock it off!) And drive him forward with your seat. Also, you need.to keep him thinking while you ride, bored horses learn bad habits just like on the ground.

    As for your sister riding him I would teach her how to not let him do that and maybe get a grazing strap for him while she rides.
    This one we use for one of our show team kids who has severe muscle atrophy. His horse listens well... On dirt. Hah.There is also another that runs up the crest and connects to the top of the bridle (I believe).
    http://www.equusnow.com/prodimages/grazingreins.jpg
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