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post #1 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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I need help :'(

I have got a 15.2 5 year old polo mare. She is an absolute babe and I love her to bits in the stable and to catch, the softest mare i have ever had.
And usually when I ride her she is great.
But the discipline I do is called horseball (rugby on horseback) and I had a event last weekend and as soon as I got on her she went bucking and bronking around the arena at 400 miles per hour. Then she calmed down and played my first two matches absolutely great.
Then the next day I got on her to warm up and she was perfect but then in the match she refused to go on the pitch, rearing and bucking trying to get me off getting her is such a state and I was scared she was going to tie up (she has a history of azoturia). Then the second match on sunday when warming up she was just going crazy. Galloping around the arena faster than I had ever gone before and in the match just wouldnt stop bucking - but as soon as I took her out of the main arena and back into the warm up she was trotting perfectly and circling - no bucks or rears.

At home she is really good but very high strung - a very hot headed horse that never gets tired.
I just need some advice to help calm her down.
And I have had her back, teeth, saddle and feet all checked and they are fine :/ i just dono what to do :/
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post #2 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 12:41 PM
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Does she just get bronky at horseball matches? If so, she may have had a bad experience on the pitch & she's reluctant to go in. If this is the case, it's just about getting her used to it again be de-sensitising (sp?). If she gets like this at other times ie. not being caused by the horsebal pitch, you could try herbal remedies? Lavander is a life saver with my horse, who can get pretty hot headed at times when jumping :) Another thing to consider, is she in season or coming into season? It might have an effect on her performance.

Hope you can get things sorted soon :)

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post #3 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 12:58 PM Thread Starter
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I would think about the whole performance thing - but she was only just broken in when i got her :/ so hasnt been on the pitch :/
hmm i might try the remedies. I'm willing to do anything coz i cannot send her back :( she is only on loan and I am trying to convince my dad to let me buy her - which isnt going too well so just need to calm her down :) x
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post #4 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 01:48 PM
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How young is she? Alot of young horse break down of they are pushed too hard too early. You can't expect a young horse to hold everything together. If everything been checked I would say your best bet is to start fresh again and make sure you take her out on plenty of trails to relax her. Young horses shouldn't be pushed. All horses will break if all their asked to do is work work work. I'm not saying your doing that but in my opinion a young horse should be brought in very slow and not asked to start learning collection till at least 5. Research a bit on the subject. Everything I have read on young horses and practice myself with my young horses and none have spazzes like that if they are graduated into everything slowly and no pushing. Know when your horse has had enough before it shows you and give it plenty of breaks. Don't make it do the same exercise for two long and tizz it up a bit. Have different things to work on let it have fun and you will have fun. Simple.
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post #5 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 03:49 PM
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This! Horses aren't machines, & they have play drives, to varying degrees.

It's a matter of understanding her, with her particular "horsenality", & understanding what you're doing with her that leads her to react as she does.

Rule #1: It's about the relationship between you & the horse, not getting some task done. Put another way, you'll fail at tasks unless you put the relationship first.

She might love to do all that you want if you made it more interesting for her, since she's tireless, as per your description, & has times of lovely cooperation with you.

I suggest learning Parelli horsenalities to see what hers is (sounds like she flips from "Make me!" - trying to buck you off - which is Left-brain Introvert, to racing away when she gets worried, which is Right-brain Extrovert.) You need to learn the skills that apply to what shows up in her in any given moment, to bring her back to you.

One strategy does not apply to all horses, or any one horse, since a horse usually has a calmer mode plus a scared mode of action. This is why I find that horsenalities are invaluable, & all you need do is check out the many success stories of riders & horses who were in trouble.

She sounds like a love, which is proven by her dreamy good spells, & her abundance of forward movement: I'm rooting for your developing the savvy in order to partner up with this gal!
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post #6 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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she's only five, but only got broken in bout eight months ago :/
the most frustrating thing is is she is so beautiful when she is being nice and could do anything. Like over the winter if I can calm her down I am going to do dressage on her coz she is just gorgeous and has such fluent movements and try some jumping just to get her some experience and get her away from the atmosphere of horseball :)
Thanks guys, I'm just really baffled with her coz she can be amazing for weeks then all of a sudden flip
I mean just rode her today and she nearly killed me, never seen bucks like the ones she was doing today and I have no idea how I didn't come off - i rode her through them and she calmed down eventually but it has really scared me and I just want her to realise that I am not going to hurt her and there is nothing to be scared of and I just don't know how to do this :(
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There's also B-Vitamin calming supplements that I've had luck with.
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post #8 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 08:07 PM
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That would explain a lot. Even though she is a bit older the same rules apply when you start a horse of any age you cannot push them straight away. She needs a year at least of steady light work on trails and chilling out not being asked to go play games like that. My horses don't get started untill 4 at least because I prefer their knees to have fully closed and developed properly before I ask a baby to carry any weight other than a saddle. Doesn't mean they don't get work done they have all their mouthing and saddle backing done by then and free lunge and all their buttons trained in for all 7 parelli games.

Thankyou Northern I agree with everything you said (I am a NH trainer) I train more Monty style bit have a tad of parelli in there too. Same concepts anyways. Also a good idea is to do the horsenalities before and after you have had her for a long time it shows dramatic differences. It is what I do with all of mine when I get them and then do anther one say two years into my working relationship with them.

Well I'm off for a morning ride for my birthday today so have fun and good luck!!!
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Neashy, I'm no expert in anything

But I suggest you go back to basics with this girl. I have to do it with my mare every once in a while when she gets worried, or confused, or just acts out. I hit the ground!!! I work on respect exercises with her which also calms her since it's like a light bulb goes off, 'oh yeah, that's right, YOU'RE my leader and you're going to take care of me. My mare is a doll, and we're really bonded, but she's still a horse, and right now she's in with a new small herd, and feeling out her place in the pecking order, and wants me to be consistent. And everything can be a learning experience. I had a new grooming kit Monday and when I took it over to her I let her 'glimpse' it then took it away and turned my back. A couple times of that and she was practically hanging over my shoulder to see what it was She's a Morab and can be hot at times, but I've found after 3 years I usually caused it and don't realize it until I have a chance to process it later. Monday after grooming her I did some minor 'tune ups' with her while letting her graze in front of the barn. Hips over, backing, etc. There was a John Deere 'bucket' off a mower out there and she wasn't sure if she liked that, so we did the same, approach, stop and face it, approach. Forget about riding and everything your sweetie can be, and get down on the ground and play. She's got about 25 years yet to be all that she can be. I'm a believer in several NH programs, take the parts that work for and forget the rest. I honestly don't believe horses want to buck off their owners although I do think a high strung horse might throw a buck every once in a while from the sheer joy they find at the moment. I also don't think your horse wants to race madly around the arena. I think she's shown you every thing you need to know if you're listening. Did I mention I'm no expert? Cheryl
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post #10 of 13 Old 06-21-2011, 08:48 PM
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Very nicely put Cheryl and I agree with you on that!!!! I liv it when ppl can explain things better than me especially when I write things at times I'm not normally awake haha!!! Good on ya!
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