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    10-22-2010, 01:49 PM
  #61
Weanling
You also asked about feeding horses straw, and don't seem to know about herd dynamics. That is absolutely fine, understandable, and dandy, as long as you don't claim you know everything, then ask some questions that are fairly basic to horsemanship.
If I were you, I would have kept my horse from any sort of contact with these strange horses; some illnesses don't manifest themselves as some big, obvious, physical change.
Focus your time and energy on getting these horses back to their rightful owners.
     
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    10-22-2010, 01:59 PM
  #62
Green Broke
If you were as experienced as you claim, you should have known the answers to all the care questions you have been asking, as every one of them is extremely basic care. You do not have to be extremely close to a horse to see gender. You certainly don't have to be close enough to touch them. They should not be fed straw, ESPECIALLY straw that has been left uncovered, as it could be moldy and make them very ill, and if you had spent as much time around horses at these various ranches you say you ride at, you would know that laying down to rest is quite normal. It is very clear from your posts that you know next to nothing about horse care, and have little or no intention of returning these horses to their rightful owner. We are all giving you advice that you asked for, yet don't want to hear, so you chose to ignore it. I truly hope your horse does not suffer for your desire to get three new free horses. Many, many diseases can be carried by horses that show no symptoms. You cannot just look at a horse and tell if it is healthy, and at this point, since you have already put your horse with them, it is too late to do anything should you find out later they are sick. I truly hope, for their sake, that the owner does show up to the sheriffs' office and demand them back.
     
    10-22-2010, 02:39 PM
  #63
Foal
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
well then, maybe someone needs to go knock on animal controls office and find out why they are not answering... Why is the sheriff not going to animal control and knocking on the door.
A brand inspector might be able to tell you who originally branded the mare, but not who the owner is now if it has been sold.
WHY do you not get the property owners phone number and CONTACT him/her? Why is that so hard to do? You make a call to the city planning offices, tell them the number of the house, then they will give you the owners name and his/hers other address in whatever town they live in. Then you can look it up and CALL them and tell them their horses are out.
You never did answer my question about why feed the horses straw and not hay? You have had the horses for 2 days , yet are already planning on keeping them forever? Have you thought that maybe the owner of the property will be arriving this weekend and find his horses gone? If he is a hunter, maybe he will be back to use his horses............
I think you are avoiding any answers or questions that imply you are not doing enough to find the owners, and plan on keeping these three horses for free. The less you do to find the owners, the more you figure they are yours for good. Did you think to RETURN them to the owners property now that you can catch them?

If you know so much about horses as you stated, then you would know the answer to why the buckskin is still nursing on the other mare. Its because she was never weaned and the mare is not chasing her away.You would now they lay down all the time, its called sleeping/resting.

Maybe you should think how the owner might feel to find out his horses are missing, how you would feel if your mare got loose while you were away for a weekend, thought someone was taking care of them, and came back to find her in a neighbors pasture and nobody tried to get ahold of you in the meantime.? Yes, you are taking care of his horses to protect them for injury, but from all your posts, you are evading answering questions to just how hard you are trying to find the owners and besides calling animal control and not getting answers you are already planning on keeping these horses. And I question why the Sheriff is doing nothing more than making the same phone calls to AC and then letting it all go. Surely someone in the neighborhood knows the person who owns the house.. How about the mailman/post office?
We have hay in fact I went ahead and gave them some, but I also called the vet and they said put some straw out incase they finish the hay they will have some things to munch on. I will contact the sheriff and post office and try and get a hold of him. I don't know who came yesterday to look at them though, but I havent heard anything since. We have no halters for the horses and I don't want to trust pass, they might just escape again because I think there might be a hole in his fence. I am going to contact the owner. Thanks everyone!
     
    10-22-2010, 02:55 PM
  #64
Started
Just for future reference, the word you're looking for when you're saying "trust pass" is actually trespass. As in the signs sometimes posted that say 'NO TRESPASSING'. The definition of trespass is as follows: 'entry to another's property without right or permission AND/OR a wrongful interference with the possession of property'.

I'd say you may already be trespassing based on the secondary portion of the definition.
     
    10-22-2010, 02:55 PM
  #65
Foal
Good luck
     
    10-22-2010, 04:12 PM
  #66
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by apachiedragon    
If you were as experienced as you claim, you should have known the answers to all the care questions you have been asking, as every one of them is extremely basic care. You do not have to be extremely close to a horse to see gender. You certainly don't have to be close enough to touch them. They should not be fed straw, ESPECIALLY straw that has been left uncovered, as it could be moldy and make them very ill, and if you had spent as much time around horses at these various ranches you say you ride at, you would know that laying down to rest is quite normal. It is very clear from your posts that you know next to nothing about horse care, and have little or no intention of returning these horses to their rightful owner. We are all giving you advice that you asked for, yet don't want to hear, so you chose to ignore it. I truly hope your horse does not suffer for your desire to get three new free horses. Many, many diseases can be carried by horses that show no symptoms. You cannot just look at a horse and tell if it is healthy, and at this point, since you have already put your horse with them, it is too late to do anything should you find out later they are sick. I truly hope, for their sake, that the owner does show up to the sheriffs' office and demand them back.
Its okay for people no matter how experienced they are to ask a few questions, basic or advanced. Nobody knows everything good luck with the horses and I think this forum is going very off subject.
     
    10-22-2010, 04:14 PM
  #67
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by HorsesAndDogs    
I think this forum is going very off subject.
No, it's not. The OP has a history of starting threads asking basic questions, and then having a tantrum and saying how experienced she is when it's obvious she's nothing more than a complete noob.

Your very first post, and you're jumping into a controversial thread tsking at people who have been here longer and know what's going on? Color me suspicious.
     
    10-22-2010, 04:23 PM
  #68
Started
After two days I would never turn out my horses with strange horses, you don't know if they are healthy or not. Can be incubating diseases that they have not been vaccinated for. I would keep my horses away at least for a month to be safe.
Have you found any contact information for the owners yet?
     
    10-22-2010, 04:33 PM
  #69
Started
Horsesanddogs, maybe you know the op? And since it is your first post, maybe you should have read the beginning post where she says" I need help with OUR three new horses" She is already planning on keeping these horses from the sounds of her posts. She is not looking very hard and not taking advice from others when she asked for advice.
You are saying we are getting off the subject and that its okay to post questions. Yep it is okay, but to state that she knows all about training and riding and has ridden for years, then can't even tell the sex of a horse up close, even if she isn't touching it? Asking why a horse is laying down? Asking why a horse is nursing on another? Those are not questions that a self boasting "trainer" of all ages and breeds and temperaments would have to ask about.
Its pretty easy to sex a horse without touching it, if it has a sheath, its a male, if it doesn't its a female. You can see a sheath standing 10 feet away.
I again say that the OP plans on keeping the horses and has no intention of finding the owners. If she spent less time on the computer asking for help then not taking advice as she did on the phone calling and asking who owns the property or who lives there from the mailman, the feedstore, the city planning, and from the sounds of it a Sheriff who doesn't seem to want to find the owners either, she would know who owns the horses and find out about returning them. If she knows there is a hole in the fence, then she has been to the house. If she doesn't have halters, then put a rope on them and walk them home and put them back in the field that they came from. FIx the hole in the fence. Go to the house an see if there are halters and use them.
So many things that she could be doing instead of getting mad because we are all not congratulating her on her "three new horses"
     
    10-22-2010, 04:35 PM
  #70
Foal
Yep, I contacted the mailman like one of y'all recommended and he told me his name and number. I called him and he has already came and picked them up. He showed me papers to proved he owned them, and then had to have me help get them in the trailer because they weren't halter broke. He said they were all healthy mares and that he was surprised we could catch them. He also paid us $250 which we didnt as for, for us catching, caring, and feeding them. Thanks for some peoples help! :)
     

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