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post #21 of 30 Old 03-29-2012, 09:28 PM
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Just typical dominant mare behavior.. with some "nothing better to do" thrown in. I bet in a large herd setting with more room she'd be less bossy, this appears to be slight boredom due to confinement. But I am guessing that it isn't an option to turn her out. So, I haven't read every reply but is it possible to move her or her "buddy" there? Maybe its just THAT horse she has such an issue with.. That or ask the barn owner if you can put up a solar pannel fencer and put a hot wire about a foot in so that she keeps her butt away from the fence and thus doesn't get a leg caught and hurt herself. There isn't really any way you can just manually convince her to stop this behavior, especially since you aren't always there.
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post #22 of 30 Old 03-29-2012, 09:30 PM
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If you use hot wire put it a few feet inside, away from the pipe, about mid butt high. That way when she kicks she won't get the pipe or a leg over the wire.
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post #23 of 30 Old 03-29-2012, 10:32 PM
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Personally, I think it's seasonal mare behavior…she's backing into the pipes in an effort to be "noticed" by the other horse, who is a somewhat curious, but unworthy, gelding.
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post #24 of 30 Old 03-29-2012, 10:47 PM
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Some horses don't do well by themselves, or in separate corrals. She looks like she is a dominant mare, who is very bored, and in a corral next to an onoxious gelding
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post #25 of 30 Old 03-29-2012, 11:35 PM
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I think she's telling the other horse to get out of her space. And he's not responding so it ticks her off! He is just standing there like "ha, ha, can't get me."

Now it's not really his fault OR her fault in my mind. In a herd situation were they lived together he would learn to get out of her way or get kicked. But because they are living in an unnatural situation, they can't have normal herd dynamics.

I see a pissed mare and a gelding that says "whatever."

I don't think the backing up is her flirting because she is not squatting or squirting. She is backing threatening to kick and he is not taking the hint. My mare will sometimes back up like that to her 2 yr old baby if she's eating grain and then let a kick fly if he doesn't back off. She's just not quite that aggressive about it!

I would show the video to the barn owner and see if the horses can get moved around. Maybe a different neighbor would help. Eventually she will get injured and nobody wants that. And I'm sure the barn owner doesn't want the damage to the fence either.
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post #26 of 30 Old 03-30-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by natisha View Post
I would say she is a flirt & a tease & is playing hard to get. My mare does that too.
She doesn't do it when you're around because you take her mind off of it.

I agree with the potential for getting caught in the panels.
To prevent - kicking chains on both rear legs. But since running in them is VERY bad for her they MUST be removed before she's turned out to pasture or any place she can run.

Another thought is running a hot wire between the 2 horse - about a foot inside her pipe corral fence. If you don't have electric a solar fence charger and push in (plastic) hit wire fence posts with wire will probably run you about $100.

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post #27 of 30 Old 03-30-2012, 09:52 AM
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^ to expand on what Valentina has suggested, there is also such a thing as kicking rings that go around the horse's pasterns. They kick, the ring hits their coronet, which is uncomfortable so they learn not to kick.

Kicking rings also have the benefit of improving blood flow to the coronet band (due to massage from movement) and will thus improve a horse's hooves.

I do still strongly agree with the people suggesting kick boards though - pipe corrals are so dangerous to keep horses next to each other in purely because if they kick they can and sometimes do break legs. Even if you use kick chains or rings, boards are still a good idea because depending on your horse it may take her twice or fifty times before she gets the message!

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post #28 of 30 Old 04-18-2012, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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So what finally happened was she kicked through the wood panel at the back of the corral, and got her foot stuck. This is all after her accident trying to jump out of the arena and flipping and falling. She did this while I was out buying the solar hot wire stuff. I did as suggested and ran it about a foot inside the fence. It ran me close to $300.00 total with the wire the solar panel etc. I should have done it a long time ago. It has stopped her from kicking in her corral. I have not seen her get zapped but when i showed up the morning after having installed it the night before she had a total different respect for the corral. Like an idiot I thought I could leave it off, but she figured that out in about a day and started kicking again. Now it is on all the time. We also changed horses and I moved her feeding location so it is not up against the other horses corral. She seems to like this little paint gelding she has for a neighbor now. He also doesn't seem to bug her. Then again he would get zapped if he did. Anyway thank you for all the advice, and I wish i had done it sooner. She will still kick if she is out to pasture and she thinks I am nowhere to be found. So, now she only gets to go to pasture with me.
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Hey, thanks for the update! It's always nice to hear how things work out. Glad to hear the hot wire is working for you...and sorry to hear it cost you $300. ugh. I'm assuming that she didn't get hurt kicking through the wood panel or jumping and flipping for that matter?! Sounds like you've got your hands full with this girl. LOL Congrats to you for making a lot of changes that hopefully will put her corral kicking ways to rest.
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No, she got hurt with the trying to escape the arena and diving into the corral panel. See the video under the thread Penelope crashes through gate. It is horrible. If anyone wants to know how I was able to video that it was because I was working her (I thought) in the arena and she looked so pretty that I wanted to have video of her running without my hand shaking the camera all over the place like it always does, so I set it up to record and kind of forgot about it until after the accident when I was waiting for the vet I checked it and the entire thing was captured and about 20 minutes of crickets chirping in the backround afterwards. I edited that out. The only good thing about it was that I was able to first off show the vet when she got there exactly what had happened. And the bad thing was I was able to (once I could leave her alone) go home and play it over and over in slow motion, backwards, zoomed in, etc. just trying to figure out why why why. It didn't help me at all, just made me relive it over and over.

She is doing much better now. She had internal injury and was anemic and in shock. We are 3 weeks out now and finally I am able to take her for some walks and even a couple of trots on the lunge line. It will be a very slow process getting her back from this. And I worry about (sweeney)(sp) because she took the hit on the point of her shoulder. I guess only time will tell, but at least for now she is not lame and seems to be improving.

Sorry for the long answer.
After the added expense of the accident the $300 really wasn't all that bad. If only i had done that before. If only I had used a lunge line.....If only .....
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