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    09-16-2007, 05:04 PM
  #1
Foal
I need more help with Odie

As some of you know, I have a 9 year old Haflinger cross gelding named Odin. He's a sweet little boy who loves to be with me, but lately he's been extremely frustrating. He's amazing on the ground; stands for hours in the cross-ties while being groomed, stands still while being tacked, leads wonderfully etc., but under saddle he's a different pony. He has his good days and his bad (lately, his days have been bad.) We've had days that we can get through a 2'3 course without hesitation, then others where he won't even jump 18 inch. I work him on the flat for about 25-30 minutes before I ask him to jump so he's plenty warmed up and ready to go.

In his bad days, he either tries to run off with me or refuses to move at all. All this bad behavior came about after he dumped me about a month ago. He has a clubbed hoof, but he's completely sound, so I don't know what's wrong with him. I recently switched him back to a loose snaffle from a jointed curb. He seems to be better now that he's the bit he was in to begin with, but he still has his iffy days.

One more thing for now.. He doesn't get the concept of lunging to save his life. I've tried numerous times to lung him and all he does is look at me like a have a million heads and trots back to me in that goofy, 'I can't be away from mommy for more than 5 minutes' way. He doesn't invade my space, he just has to be close to me. The only time he's successfully been lunged is when I was on him and my friend was on the ground.

Sorry about the rambling. Any advice?
     
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    09-16-2007, 06:01 PM
  #2
Foal
Is there anyone that has some training experience that can help you? Have you lunged a horse before? Teaching a horse how can sometimes be difficult. Do you have a small pen or round pen to use? One mistake that I used to make was trying to drive a horse from the hind quarters. If you do this they tend to want and face you instead of moving away. The key is to apply preasure to the shoulder area instead. You can pratice this simply by pushing on the horses shoulder until it steps away. As soon as the horse gives remove the pressure. That is his reward for moving. Once you can get you horse to give you should be able to ask him to move farther away from you. You can start by swinging a rope at his shoulder. Do this until it touches him, if nessasarry. If the horse does not move just keep swinging letting the rope tap him on the shoulder until he moves away. Always stay focused on the horses shoulder, and don’t stand in front of him in case he tries to rear up. Once the horse moves quit swinging the rope. If he stop’s start swinging it at the shoulder again. Try and stay in the same spot with him moving around you, don't walk towrds him unless he stops. Always remember to keep a good hold on the rope and don’t let it get tangled around your hand. If you give the horse too much slack you won’t be able to keep him from turning his hind end on you. However if you hold the rope too tightly the horse won’t want to go forward. You have to make your intensions clear and mean business. If he is not moving away it is because the signals aren’t clear or he just does not see you as the boss. I have never seen a horse that can not be lunged. I have only seen those that refuse to do it and get away with it. Once you can get what you want from your horse on the ground he will be a lot easier to work with under saddle. Hope that helps you some.

Wishing you the best of luck,
Kelly
     
    09-16-2007, 06:35 PM
  #3
Yearling
LOL I'm not alone with horses who don't get lunging HALLELUYA!!!! AND PRAISE THE LORD!!!!
     
    09-17-2007, 12:19 AM
  #4
Foal
Try carrying a crop or have a little bit of spur on him. Not to hurt him but once he is over the first jump. Just make sure to keep after him on every little thing he does wrong. Then he'll submit and know you mean buisness. Good Luck!!!!!!
     
    09-17-2007, 01:30 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by Piper
Have you lunged a horse before?
Yes. I've lunged plenty of horses, taught one, and brushed up on another's lungin skills. I had my trainer help me with the mare I taught to lunge and I've been trying to use the things she did, but nothing with working with Odin.


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Originally Posted by ponygirllizzie@xanadu
Try carrying a crop or have a little bit of spur on him. Not to hurt him but once he is over the first jump. Just make sure to keep after him on every little thing he does wrong. Then he'll submit and know you mean buisness. Good Luck!!!!!!
Lately, I have been carrying a crop, but when I do, he does the little 'stop 'n hop' move over the jump. I work him over that jump until he gets his takeoff point right and he's done everything correctly, so he knows that he can't get away with all his funny business.
     
    09-21-2007, 10:25 PM
  #6
Foal
If you rule out anything physical, it sounds to me like he's testing you. Go back to the basics such as groundwork and flat work. Give the jumping a break for awhile and make sure he's really tuned into you when you're riding. It's probably a lack of respect.
     

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