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    12-17-2007, 10:24 AM
Green Broke
I need some advice about my horse!! help!

Okay well my horse keeps putting his head down right after I take the halter off to bridle him and if I pull his head upp he will shove me and put his head back down and he does it after I take of the bridle to put on the halter and he shoves me if I pick his head up he's great after a while of me picking up his head he eventually gives up the shoveing and opens his mouth when I say open to put the bit in and same with the halter he likes to help with that I'll hold the halter still and he will stick his nose in then I do the rest its just it takes for ever for him to give up putting his head down and the shoveing is just disrespectful any ideas of how to stop this???
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    12-17-2007, 11:21 AM
I guess I should ask a few questions, where are you standing when you take off the halter and put on the bridle and do you keep the halter on him, around his neck or take it off completely? You should be standing beside him not in front of him. And keeping the halter on till the bridle is on. I ride with a rope halter on (trail riding) so I just keep her tied till we are ready to go, she can't put her head down even if she wanted to. I tie to a ring above her head so she is tied up. The shoving is a sign of disrespect and I wouldn't let him get away with it. You may try backing him up and doing some yielding exercises when he does this just to let him know who is boss. Hope this helps, its just the way I do it I'm sure there are others.
    12-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Green Broke
I stand beside him and I take it completely off cause he hates it when I put the bridle over the halter i've tried that and he just shakes his head continuously. And what kind of things should I do with him to show him im the boss I mean I know join up I havent got a chance to try it but I might this weekend
    12-17-2007, 12:41 PM
My question would be, why are you wanting his head to come UP? I ask my horse to lower his head when I put the bit in his mouth, the lower the better because it's a more natural position for their head to be in, and it's a sign that he trusts me and he doesn't mind being bridled.

If he shoves you, start scratching his head REALLY HARD with your nails and making a huge fuss over his head. Rub it vigorusly and MATCH his energy. If he shoves you with a lot of intent, scratch and rub him with just as much energy, and then add just a tad more. Eventually he will decide it's not very comfortable to do that, and he'll stop.
    12-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Green Broke
Ill try the scratching thing but I mean he lowers his head all the way down to the ground and ya I like him putting his head in the natrual postion but I mean he puts his head all the down so his nose touches the ground and when I try and lift it back up he starts to bring it up then shoves me real hard I tell him no with a big voice and he sorta backs down but he just keeps doing it
    12-17-2007, 02:01 PM
I would try lightly kicking him in the nose with my toe when he has his head all the way to the ground. Not a kick that will hurt him, but just enough that he'll feel it and move his head up to get away from whatever "stung" him in the choppers. Don't get into a tug of war with him by trying to pull his head up.

The shoves are very disrespectful and should be reprimanded hard and fast. The instant he shoves you with his head, step toward him and send him backwards. Make it seem like the whole world just came crashing down on him. It will be a little tricky because you won't have anything on his head to help control where he goes. If you work with the Parelli 7 games, this is a great spot to do the YoYo game (which can be done with a rope halter tied loosely around his neck attached to a lead rope).
    12-17-2007, 03:41 PM
Ah yes, the Parelli 7 Games are a great idea!

Instead of worrying about where his head is at, why not just bridle him with his head down that low? That's a GOOD thing that his head is down that low. He's obviously not worried about anything, so don't be picky. :) Try bridling him with his head down that low. Now, if he refuses the bit with his head down low, then I might suspect that it's an evasion technique because of unconfidence, but it doesn't sound like that's what it is. You said he was very willing to accept the bit. So I say don't make a big deal about it. Take what he offers you. Be grateful his head isn't way up in the sky! Lol.
    12-17-2007, 06:06 PM
I always take the halter off the nose and rebuckle it around the neck when using a web halter, just in case there is some sort of goof-up. That's just the way I was taught, not sure if its right or not. I guess in a worse case scenario the horse could break his neck with the halter buckled around his neck Sorry I just use a rope halter and leave in on under the bridle, but I guess that's a trail rider thing.
    12-17-2007, 08:01 PM
Green Broke
Ok lol thxs spirit horse I think I might just do that instead of fight with him lol and ya I am happy his head isnt way up in the sky :P

And Vidaloco I don't use a rope halter mine is a nylon halter and I can't bridle over the halter cause he throws a fit with his head

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