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        04-27-2010, 12:39 AM
      #21
    Trained
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    If I am on the ground with him, next to him, interacting with him, close to him. He is fine, still screams and paces a bit. But for the most part is fine
    Latte is funny - She is fine if i'm there. On the weekend I put her away while the others headed off for more trails, and she was fine while I stood in the paddock giving her scratches, but as soon as I walked away, she was off - screaming, galloping, bucking, head and tail in the air - Bloody Ay-rab!
         
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        04-27-2010, 12:41 AM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    Latte is funny - She is fine if i'm there. On the weekend I put her away while the others headed off for more trails, and she was fine while I stood in the paddock giving her scratches, but as soon as I walked away, she was off - screaming, galloping, bucking, head and tail in the air - Bloody Ay-rab!
    Almost exactly how Slick is,
         
        04-27-2010, 12:46 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    Sidepassing is so much clearer when a gate whacks them in the hiney if they don't :]

    Lol that's a funny line, anyway it's totally true. It works a lot better also because we are so focused on not getting out leg taken off by the tree, we tend to work a little more affectivly with that motivation

    Anyway back to the issue at hand

    I have worked with herd bound horses before (like I said my mom's horse is a little herd bound himself, better now but still rears it's ugly head every now and then)

    I have found that you get better resaults if the horse IS in a herd living situation. It may not be the easiest way to work but it does get better results in the long run because after we are finished training we generally put them into a herd. We then expect them to know how to behave when taken out of it to work. The problem with that is we never really trained them to know that everything is ok with this situation.

    So, if it was me and my horse (this is just how I would deal with this situation and is only my opinion) I would start by having them in a herd with at least two other horses if possible. If not then work with what you can :) I would then take some time to strangthen his relationship with you. Once he is calm, cool, and collected away from his buddies (with you with him) then I would start working. This may take a day or it may take a week, go with what works for him.

    Once he is feeling safe with you then start working a little bit in the arena on patterns, circles, figure 8, bending, side passes, anything he knows already. I would also start taking him out on trails (if he is capable of doing this by himself then that's the way I would start). When he is calm out and about at walk/trot/canter then I would introduce going for rides with another horse speradically, don't make it a thing that happens all the time or you loose some of the progress you have made.

    Go into every session with him, be it a working session or a lets hang and eat some grass building a stronger relationship session, with possitive expectations. If we expect possitive outcomes then we are more likely to get it because A) we don't except bad behaviour as readily and B) they sence the possitive attitude coming from us and want to make us happy.

    Hope this helps a little, if anything didn't make sense let me know and I'll try to word it differently. Good luck
         
        04-27-2010, 12:49 AM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Thank you Silvera! I will certainly try that! Makes sense =]
         
        04-27-2010, 12:50 AM
      #25
    Weanling
    Anytime!!
         
        04-27-2010, 12:50 AM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Buttt....quick question how can I correct his bad behavior in the crossties? If I reprimand him he only gets worse.
         
        04-27-2010, 12:51 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    What is he doing? And how are you reprimanding him?
         
        04-27-2010, 12:53 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Rearing, moving side to side, those kind of things. I kinda do a loud "hey!" and walk over to him tell him to stand, which as soon as I go over there he stops. What else could I do? If I smack him I don't think it would help anything... or geeze I have no clue what to do
         
        04-27-2010, 12:56 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    The problem is walking away from him,
         
        04-27-2010, 12:59 AM
      #30
    Weanling
    Well there are a few things you could try, it depends on how he takes it. I usually do give my guys a quick wack on the shoulder accompanied by either a sharp angry voiced "stand" or "No" or whatever you want to use. I cup my hand so it makes a good sounds. It's not to hurt him, just to shock him into realizing he has done something wrong. Then when he stops and stands praise him with scratches and "good boy" in a nice tone of voice. If that works then go with it.

    If not I would go back to straight tieing for a bit. The thing with cross-ties is it doesn't allow him to move much. If he feels confined because he can't move he will be more nervouse and act up more. If you do go to straight tieing for a bit I would still dicipline him like I said above so he get's used to that. When he responds well to the dicipline in the straight tie and stands then go back to cross-ties.

    Does that help?
         

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