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  • Motorcycle cornering drop the inside shoulder

 
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    07-10-2011, 10:20 PM
  #11
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The heading horse on the right is looking to the outside and dropping his inside shoulder. He is typical. Yours is not if he has his head to the inside.

The other thing to remember is that 'horses are creatures of habit'. If he has gotten in the habit of doing this with you, then he does not need any other reason for doing it now other than that he has done it before.

I still think if he is rushing through that corner, he needs to be rested there and dismounted there.
     
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    07-10-2011, 11:18 PM
  #12
Foal
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
The heading horse on the right is looking to the outside and dropping his inside shoulder. He is typical. Yours is not if he has his head to the inside.

The other thing to remember is that 'horses are creatures of habit'. If he has gotten in the habit of doing this with you, then he does not need any other reason for doing it now other than that he has done it before.

I still think if he is rushing through that corner, he needs to be rested there and dismounted there.
The horse in the picture has his head is slightly turned in the direction he's going, it's what I was saying mine does seeing as you were saying how he was looking to the outside. I told you I started to make him counter flex to see if it would help, and it did, a small amount but still something.

Yes he's gotten away with it but I'm doing what I can. I'm pregnant, I can't necessarily do a lot on my standpoint at the moment (Pregnant lady cantering/galloping a pony... Sound interesting).

Also I don't see how dismounting is going to do any favors. He's fine on the ground. He eats there on his own time. I DO however stop him in the corner and make him back up then stand for a few minutes. Go around and do it again so he doesn't get in a rushed mind frame. But like I said, there's not much I can do at the moment and I don't see how dismounting is going to help either of us. I was always taught and learned if there's a problem when riding and you get off and give a pat, you just threw your side of the disagreement out the window.
     
    07-10-2011, 11:32 PM
  #13
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You never get off in the middle of the battle. You win the battle. Then, when you are done a ready to end the ride, ride to whatever area the horse does not like (in this case, the corner he rushes through) and you stop, wait for him to completely relax, dismount while he is relaxed, loosen the girth and lead out.

The reason it works so well is that place becomes a place he looks forward to being instead of a place he dreads and wants to rush through. Obviously, you do not get off while he is showing resistance or anxiety. But stopping and ending a ride there is very helpful AFTER the horse has given up any resistance and is relaxed.

The horse in the photo is definitely NOT looking toward the inside -- or the left in this case. When a horse is being ridden deep into a corner, the rider should see the corner of the horse's inside eye. The ribs should also be bent around the rider's inside leg. This picture shows a stiff horse the is bent slightly to the outside and is dropping an inside shoulder -- badly. A horse just cannot drop and inside shoulder if it is bent around a rider's inside leg and the head, neck and shoulder are also properly on the circle -- in which case, the rider can see the inside eye of the horse.
     
    07-10-2011, 11:51 PM
  #14
Foal
Thing is he doesn't "dread" that corner, he's more than fine with it. Every pace other than a canter he doesn't rush, takes his time and mozys along. He eats there, he isn't spooky in the least around it, but it is my balance, I am starting to notice a difference. If you could put that into consideration, although the fact you consistently go against how everyone else is saying it's balance, my doctor said it would be off and I'm telling you it is, I doubt there's much luck there. Yes he got away with it before but I'm working with what I CAN. Obviously when people post in this forum there horse is doing "something" they don't like and need help with (aka the horse got away with it at least once or they wouldn't be asking for help), so why is it more of a big deal for me that he tries to steady himself to make up for my loss of balance? I'm taking advice from the other posters and it does seem to help him, however main point being "I" can't do much at this point. As for the horse in the picture we both seem to see two different things. I'm not saying his head is to my leg but I do see the corner of his eye in the direction he's going and not on the outside just like it looks like the rider in the picture could have a better view of his horses face in the direction the horse is going rather than the opposite. Not that he can't see it, but he'd probably have a better view. Like I said, I can't take pictures because it's just me, but you will have to deal with the fact it is indeed a balance issue and treating it as such does work, but like I keep saying, there's not much I can do myself at the moment.
     

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