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post #11 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 03:09 AM
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I agree, based on this post, it does not sound like you are ready to train a green horse.

A lot of younger people in the teenage phase think they can train. Sure, they can ride colts, put some miles on, survive the experience and maybe get the bucks out...But a lot, and myself included a lot before and even sometimes now, tend to react too quickly with teenage bravado. On top of this, it is just flat out you do NOT have the experience. It is not POSSIBLE to get the experience you need in the short amount of time you have been alive. I've been around horses my entire life, I've worked with many and am training for people now, but I am never going to say I am "good" at training. Sure I can do what some people ask, but there are MANY people better and I will never have the self arrogance to say it. I'll let my actions speak for themselves and let the owners decide.

Now, I'm not here to say you're a stupid arrogant teenager. I think you have good intentions and that is admirable. However, your mother said no. You need to respect that whether you like it or not. There will be plenty of other horses for you to work with.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #12 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 07:13 AM
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A gaited horse is smooth, no need to post. Why would you want it to trot? Perhaps it's time to read up on the Rockys and the Tennessee Walkers It will help you understand their movement.
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post #13 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 08:01 AM
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guess ur mums paying for the feed, paid for the horse, pays for teeth, vet farrier, and everything else, it makes it your mums choice, I wish I had it easy and have someone else buy a horse for me lol

I think you are very lucky to have a horse
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post #14 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 10:09 AM
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Here's my opinion, First off I never hand feed treats. All you need is for your horse to get used to treats being in hands and take a bite of your or someones hand thinking there is a treat in it. This is especially dangerous if there are ever going to be small children around your horse.

On your mom not letting you help train... As a mother I would have to say she is worried that you think you know more than you actually do. My concern would be two fold. First for your safety. A horse is a 1000lb animal with it's own brain. Even well trained horses can be dangerous. Second I would be concerned for the horse. It is very confusing to a horse to be getting two different kinds of direction. If the horse is being taught one thing then you come in and teach it differently it now has no idea what is expected of it.

I would also be sad that my child was posting this on a public forum rather than talking to me directly about her concerns. Just a mom talking...

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post #15 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 10:46 AM
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For one, im not here to scold anyone but do your parents know you are complaining about them and telling strangers about your familys personal issues?

Imo you are in the "im a super horse trainer" phase of being a teen. Most teens go through it and unless you are a prodigy, you honestly probably dont have the skills to train a horse. Your mom probably already sees this and is making a responsible parenting decision. Respect her.
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post #16 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 11:27 AM
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When I was 14 I was thrilled to be allowed to work with/ride ANY horse. I bought my first horse at 15 with my own money, paid for board/vet/farrier/tack with my own money(worked while completing high school) and then I was able to 'train' however I wanted. Through the whole process I was painfully aware that I was young and inexperienced. I soaked up all the info I could get, from internet searches, books and videos from trainers and anyone I could talk to, to learning from the horses themselves, I never thought I was 'better' than anyone.

Another thing to keep in mind, you are EXTREMELY lucky to have family that loves horses. None of my immediate family knows the nose from the tail, and they have no interest in horses whatsoever. They never came to any of my endurance rides, never watched me ride or train and rarely bothered to come see my horses. I can count the number of times in my teenage years they came out to see me with my horses on one hand.

Also, please do some research and watch some trainers work. A lot of the things that bother you are non-issues for me. I don't do mountains of groundwork, I rarely feed by hand(if at all), my horses have never had to back off a trailer(stock trailer). I prefer English to western riding and I do endurance. Riding for 25+ miles has taught me to not force a gait on a horse, just to let them move in the most natural fashion for them. Why would you want a gaited horse to trot??
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post #17 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 11:53 AM
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What I want to know is IF the OP is a 14 year old, WHY AM I SEEING HER POST? I selected the option not to see any posts started by anyone under 15.............

BTW at 14 you get an allowance every week. You are allowed to have 3 meals a day. You are allowed to have your own room which you are allowed to keep neat and clean. You are allowed to have a roof over your head and an education... and you are allowed to have a horse.

FWIW I bet if you started to keep your room clean; started to show appreciation for what you have (and no 'tude); and did more on your own (dishes, chores, unloading the dishwasher if you don't wash 'em by hand, doing laundry, picking up and folding and putting away clothes, lawn mowing, vacuuming and dusting etc.) without needing to be asked (like an adult) you might have more of a shot at training with this new horse.

Just a random thought kiddo. :)

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I am 15, just to clarify.
I do respect my parents, this post was just to ask why she won't let me help?
The post on my dad - I was super upset that day, I know I was stupid. I would delete it - but I don't know how.

I am in no means trying to be bratty. I was just talking about our horse and asking a question.

I wouldn't be training him alone either - my mom will not let anyone in the stall with him or let any horses get close to him, yet. Soon he will be pastured with Golley, but until then she says for no one to handle him without her being there. Which I agree with that because I don't know what he will do if something surprising happens. We have only had him for about five days.

The horse was to be shared. We have always shared our horses and she said that we will share Chocolate too.

I am grateful for what my parents do for me - everyone has their days and I do apologize for being rude about my dad.

When we groundwork our horses, it's to get their attention on us and listen to us - and correct any bad habits they may have. Brisco has a problem with crowding when he circles around you - but I have fixed that and he doesn't do it anymore.
Chocolate is scared about backing out. When he were unloading him, he got both feet on solid ground - but then he just got right back in the trailer. They poor guy was shaking - but I will let my mom handle the trailers. I am not completely comfortable with going in trailers yet. But I am getting better at it.
Chocolate's previous owner always let the horse decide how he got caught. That is why he never let the previous owner - who had him since chocolate was 6 months old (he is now seven) - catch him from even walking up to his side. The owner had to touch his hind first and work his way up to his head. When we were taking him home and trying him out chocolate did this both times.
I have led the horse and pet him and be around him - that's all my mother will let me do. But so far Chocolate has been very curious. He is really good about his new home - he is quiet and he acts like he ha been here forever. He is a very calm horse and lets you do almost anything to him - I've watched my mom with him.

I know I have lots to learn, but I also do know a lot. But I don't know everything. Everyone is different, but everyone does have to learn more, always. I realise that, and I understand that. And like I said before, I do respect my mom and my dad. I do everything they tell me to do and I do respect them.

I know what gaited is - they replace the trot with a different gait that keeps them moving but almost always have his feet on the ground. I saw a video of a Paso Fino - man, they look hideous, but they are so smooth to ride.

I share my horses with my friends too, but I only let them handle my horses when I am around - which is why I understand why my mom doesn't want any one else messing with Chocolate while she isn't around.

If your horse takes a bite of your hand thinking it's a treat, then you need to correct that. But horses grasp food with their lips. If you put a few treats in a bucket of marbles and gave it to them, they would eat all the treats and not a single marble. That's the beauty of their lips. :) There was a word for their lip movement like that, I forgot what it was. But I will say it when I remember.
I have asked my mom about it and she just said that I ma not allowed to. She didn't say why or anything. That's just weird.

This isn't a personal issue - my friends and my boarder knows it too. They know I am on this forum.

Me and my mom are the only ones in my family who like horses. My dad just wants my mom happy, which is why he doesn't say anything about it.
I don't want gaited horses to trot - I like the gait better than a trot. I guess I must have miss-typed something because I know you shouldn't let gaited horses trot. It's basically like gaited horses have no trot. lol.

I do watch videos, and I have books and I actually takes notes on the books and videos too. I take them with me when I ride in case I need to look at something - and I also ask my mom.

I don't get an allowance and I do my chores. I know I have a lot more stuff than some people in the world - The point of my original post was to ask to see if anyone has any ideas on maybe why she won't let me help. I thank you for your posts and advice as well.

I do everything my parents ask me to do, and everyday after school I do two or more chores. My mom said that soon I will be able to ride the bus to our boarder's house (my friend also lives there.) so I can help my friend with her cleaning the stalls and afterwards go ride.

Thanks for the advice - and ideas.
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post #19 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 01:15 PM
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Your not going to get any sympathy from existing parents. I can give you one good reason your mom doesn't want you spending time training. You need to spend more time on your school work. Especially, your writing skills.
You wrote:
"my friends and my boarder knows it too"

If you were my daughter, and you pulled this, you'd be standing up at the dinner table, for quite sometime. Your mom said, "NO", and that should end it.

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post #20 of 58 Old 05-07-2013, 02:11 PM
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Either way, you are fifteen.
You are a young girl.
Your mom said no.
End of story.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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