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  • Horse only likes to trot when i wanna run

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    04-17-2013, 01:08 AM
  #21
Trained
I did end up having to do this with an old gelding I had. He had a habit of bolting as soon as I had one foot in the stirrup, so it was a mad hop into the saddle and then trying to get him slowed down and stopped was also fun. He just stopped thinking and only ran and all we did was fight getting him to try and slow down.
So I finally just gave up and let him run. I let him run until he decided to stop, and then I made him go for a few more circles so we ended up with him listening to me, and then I called it a day. By the end of the their day he realised that running wasn't such a good idea and within a month he went from a crazy bolter to doing a beautiful Western Pleasure jog.

However, he wasn't a overly hot horse and he had some training issues made from people prior to me getting him so his mindset is different then your mares. I can't see much harm in trying it - what you're doing obviously isn't working so maybe this will.
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    04-17-2013, 01:09 AM
  #22
Started
^^ Muppet, that could work.
I have tried the relaxed thing and it worked with her trot. I know I tried it with her lope and it had mixed results. It would be worth going back to. I also know that really exaggerating following her mouth with my hands relaxes her a smidge.

Her lope is all over the place. Its the most awful thing I've tried to ride lol.

I think I will try what tou suggested a couple times since it isnt as dramatic (so to speak) as running her. And if the results are poo, running her is my last resort.

Toto, we have been going slow for almost a year with a couple exceptions. Its time to put the big girl panties on and get to it.
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    04-17-2013, 02:05 AM
  #23
Weanling
When I've got a horse like that, I find some hills :) anything around you that you could take the horse up and down?
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    04-17-2013, 03:26 AM
  #24
Trained
Letting a horse run to get it out of their system works with some horses, others, they just get hotter, Squiggy & Scotty sound a lot alike, he would run until his heart fell out of his chest. Perfect a small circle, a perfect circle, a flexed circle, try to keep her balanced between your reins and legs, no falling in to the inside, once she is, release the pressure, that is her reward, give her a break & pet her neck so she knows. The circle will control the speed and you will contol her position. Lope her again, once she gets all hot & high headed, back to that small perfect circle, all the balance is lateral in your hands & legs, no backwards pressure on the reins, sit deep in your saddle. I would start at the walk to perfect that circle, when it's perfect and she lowers her poll and brings her back muscles up to you, release the cues, let her walk out. When she does that perfectly, move to the jog, then the long trot then the lope. She sounds like a busy mare, I would give her obstacles in her training, like a bridge, a gate, wagon wheel trotting poles, L back throughs, then go back to working on the controlled lope. Another thing, if for some reason if she gets all frustrated, stop. Do a turn on the forehand, one step, stop, sit there, wait, then another, etc., it gets their minds off forward, and back to lateral and using the shoulders and hind end. The only time I would let her run full out is if you are chasing a cow or in a barrel race because I have feeling if you let her do it in her training, she will want to take the opportunity to do it whenever she feels you "might" let her. Sure you can stop her, but her mind will always be, "when can I run, when when?" instead of "Sure, I will do that relaxed, balanced lope because you asked". Hope this helps, works wonders for all the hot to trot horses I have worked with.
     
    04-17-2013, 04:36 AM
  #25
Green Broke
Have you checked saddle fit, AND whether or not there is something wrong with that saddle, even if it fits well?

Broken tree, nails coming through fleece and leather, broken gullet?

Turn it upside down and press with all your weight leaning on hands, in every single area. Shutting your eyes may help here.

And could be you are using too long a girth, or coming too snug?

Chiro/massage would maybe help too.

But I would just wonder about saddle?
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    04-17-2013, 08:52 AM
  #26
Showing
What bit are you using as horse will run into pain. Whenever I've encountered a problem with a horse I hear a German dressage coach's voice saying "go back to basics, always go back to basics." It's worked so far because each time we plug a little hole in the training that we missed.
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    04-17-2013, 09:02 AM
  #27
Trained
Agree Saddlebag-this horse looks to me like she needs to go back and get soft in the face. Looks like she is constantly being hauled in the mouth to me.
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    04-17-2013, 09:12 AM
  #28
Banned
I couldn't watch the video......will try and see it later today


Ok....was there a video??? If there was its gone now...????
     
    04-17-2013, 10:32 AM
  #29
Started
I alternate her between a snaffle and a jr cowhorse bit. (Snaffle for flatwork and such, jr cowhorse for chasig cows ect) she is soft in the face and gives to bit pressure with just a wiggle of my pinky... at a walk and a trot. Lope - all that goes out the window.
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    04-17-2013, 01:45 PM
  #30
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Palomine    
Have you checked saddle fit, AND whether or not there is something wrong with that saddle, even if it fits well?

Broken tree, nails coming through fleece and leather, broken gullet?

Turn it upside down and press with all your weight leaning on hands, in every single area. Shutting your eyes may help here.

And could be you are using too long a girth, or coming too snug?

Chiro/massage would maybe help too.

But I would just wonder about saddle?
Great point- the horse should always be checked for physical pain prior to increasing the workload to fix a problem. That being said, many horses struggle to find balance at the canter if not conditioned properly. Taking them up and down hills and mountains is great physical conditioning for improving flat work.
     

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