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post #71 of 112 Old 04-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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My paint mare used to do this...what I would do is just circle her every time she got ahead of me, and then I'd stop her and let her think for a sec, that was always important. Our circles were pretty tight, so she would have to think about where she was putting her feet and all.

After a few sessions she learned that she had to listen to me no matter how much energy she had, and that I would let her move out once she settled. It's important that she listens to you at all times, not just when she feels like it. But yea, I know how you feel, we went through the "buck, run, bolt!!!" phase too;)
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post #72 of 112 Old 04-18-2013, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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Update: rode her English today in a smaller area.
What I did: walked with small increments of trotting until her trot became consistent. And then did half halts and figure 8's and full stops and backing. Then, I would ask softly for a lope and just sat with my hands still and forgiving. I would let her lope a few strides on the circle and bring her back down to a trot and trot and do whatever is necessary to get her to trot calmly again. (Also asking her to drive with her hiney instead of plopping along) and ask for a lope on thr circle again, lope a few strides and back down to a trot. It seemed to help a lot! She didnt hollow out right away and actually used her back

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post #73 of 112 Old 04-18-2013, 07:48 PM
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I've skimmed through most of the posts.

My thinking is: If she has a problem at the lope, then lope, lope, lope, and lope some more! If she doessn't have muscles developed yet for a slow lope, it may be uncomfortable for her. Or she may not understand. Or...... this may be how she is.

I had a horse named Scooter for one year, while my horse Beau healed from a big injury. Scooter was fantastic. He was so soft in the bridle and SO sensitive to any of your cues. He was constantly listening to what you wanted him to do next. Scooter only had 2 flaws 1) He was hard to catch. He didn't run away from you, but would just keep walking slightly away from you. 2) He did not know how to lope "normal". I rode him all summer long 4+ miles every single day, and every time I'd want him to lope resonably slow and relaxed, my butt was bouncing out of the seat, because he mostly just hopped. Running? Oh, he'd flatten out like a racehorse. But he would never figure out how to lope. Just never could.

So..... I know it's possible for it to just simply be the horse. Which potentially may be the case here.

With Squiggy, I'd just spend lots of time loping. Develop those muscles. Do lots of circles, and lots of serpentines, and lots of simply slow loping for a mile or more (when you get her in good enough shape). Eventually, you will relax. She will relax, and she should smooth out.

I am 100% for breezing a horse. I feel like it gets the silly out and gets them more focused. Wouldn't hurt to try it. Just make sure you do so in the safe open area, where you could one-rein her down to a stop if the emergency arises.

Red, it does him good to breeze. He would run himself dead though, if I let him. So he is a bit hot after I breeze him, but I can make him do a nice lope afterward. I've taught him that I'm in control of the speed. He basically western pleasure lope real nice, although he can do better on softness in the bridle (hence why he's going to a reining trainer in a few days, so I can learn better how to ask him too).
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post #74 of 112 Old 04-18-2013, 07:51 PM
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Sorry, didn't read all the posts. Instead of ramping it up to an all out run, have you tried just bringing her up one gear and seeing if you two just aren't on the same page about the speed? If she's an all or nothing girl, I'd say pick a safe field or track and let fly. After she can't go another step, then just briefly work at the pace you want.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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post #75 of 112 Old 04-18-2013, 07:53 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry, didn't read all the posts. Instead of ramping it up to an all out run, have you tried just bringing her up one gear and seeing if you two just aren't on the same page about the speed? If she's an all or nothing girl, I'd say pick a safe field or track and let fly. After she can't go another step, then just briefly work at the pace you want.
Her best gait is a hand-gallop. Its the gait faster than a walk we are on the same page at all the time

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post #76 of 112 Old 04-19-2013, 12:34 AM
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Maybe she does need those downward transitions.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #77 of 112 Old 04-19-2013, 10:19 AM Thread Starter
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Riding her in the smaller pen yesterday and asking for a lope when she has to learn to pick up he right lead and is forced to slow down. Maybe she just needs to lnow she can actually go slow

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IM NOT SUGGESTING THIS BUT....

My gelding got like that with galloping and I let him go and directed him toward the side of a barn and it was scary. He quickly learned that stop meant stop. We didn't hit it. But he sat down and slid.

It was really stupid of me.
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post #79 of 112 Old 04-19-2013, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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There is no problem with stopping, I can get her rolling and sit and "whoaaa" and she starts to slow down and then the bit comes in and makes that a stop.

I too have turned horses into a fence, but it was greenies that I was breaking that bolted or started bucking and I couldnt get a hold of their heads enough to stop them, so I just turned them into the roundpen fence.

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post #80 of 112 Old 04-21-2013, 02:35 PM Thread Starter
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Heres a little video from the other day.

The clips when her trot is really fast, I had my leg on her and was pushing her, but basically showing her she can trot faster without breaking into a lope (as you can see she REEEEALLY wanted to do). She was a little fired up that day as well, it was really windy and other horses were galavanting around like orangutans. *le sigh*

The loping clips are in chronological order. Notice how in the first one, she picks up the wrong lead? And then after that, it got progressively better? She's quick to catch on to some ideas, and not others.

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I also talked to a few people who train horses this weekend, and they all had the same idea: at 4 and 5 years, horses brains tend to fall out of their ears, and they become a horse again when they are 6. LOL.

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