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    12-16-2010, 11:24 PM
  #1
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Arrow I'm a little frustrated with George right now ... GRRRR!

Ok so, I've had George for 5 days as of today. He's been through A LOT in his life time. I wanted to be his "soft place to fall." And I do realize that he doesn't understand that. But I've only been nice, gentle, and loving to him since he's been here. Yes - I know .. he's a HORSE ... not a human, so he doesn't understand my intentions. But it still really frustrates what he did (and what behavior he's beginning to display).

Last evening I was in the barn with him and I decided to go into his stall and brush him down. So I did. While I was brushing him I was just starting to brush his kneck/chest area and he "looked" annoyed. I don't know how to explain it ... he just looked annoyed. I could pick up on it easily. But I just sang lightly to him and kept brushing. Next thing he does is LUNGES his Head towards me "trying" to bite me. I don't know if it was just a warning or if he really tried to bite. I jerked away and said "GEORGE NO!" and pointed towards him acting like the big boss - so he doesn't think he can take advantage of me like that.

So then today I was down there just for an afternoon visit with him and my mother in law was here checking him out. He was nice as could be to us. We weren't brushing him - but we were petting his head/face and kneck. He didn't act at all like he did last evening. So I figured he was just in a mood last evening or something. Well then this evening when I was in the barn after I watered him and gave him more hay I stood there at his stall door and talked to him. Once again he acted annoyed by me and again he "sorta" bit at me. Not as much as the previous evening ... but still ... HE DID IT. That made me mad and hurt my feelings ... so I gave him a little slap (just a tap to let him know that I'm the boss ... not him) and said NO. I hated doing that because I have no idea what all he's been through and how he was treated in his past, and I don't want him to ever fear me. I want him to trust me. But on the other hand I also don't want him to think he can just push me around!

Why is he doing this and how do I stop him ? I want him to learn to trust me AND to respect me at the same time. HELP PLEASE !
     
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    12-16-2010, 11:30 PM
  #2
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I have never had a horse with a rough history, however I am a foster parent and all my kids have. It can take years sometimes many years. Sometimes it never happens that they trust.

You cannot expect to go there in 5 days and for him to have trust. I would not trust someone I met 5 days ago, would you?
It might well be that he is settling in and you are seeing his true personality too.

Be consistent and see what happens would be my advise.
     
    12-16-2010, 11:35 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
I have never had a horse with a rough history, however I am a foster parent and all my kids have. It can take years sometimes many years. Sometimes it never happens that they trust.

You cannot expect to go there in 5 days and for him to have trust. I would not trust someone I met 5 days ago, would you?
It might well be that he is settling in and you are seeing his true personality too.

Be consistent and see what happens would be my advise.
Yeah, I do realize that trust takes time ... but the only reason why I don't understand why he's behaving like this is because the girl that had him right before me had him for approx a month and she hasn't seen him display any bad behavior at all. She has 3 kids and she said they crawled all over him. She said her 1yr old could walk up to him and hug his front leg and he didn't ever show any aggressive behavior. She said he didn't act like he "enjoyed" it ... but he never tried biting or kicking or anything aggressive in any way. She was shocked that he did that when I told her. So that's why it shocks me that he's acting this way now. For her he's been this gentle giant who could care less about what's going on around him. So now why all of the sudden is he acting out ?
     
    12-16-2010, 11:36 PM
  #4
Foal
It's going to take alot more time then 5 days I'm afraid I had similar situation, I'm on the 4th month with my mare and still not got to that point yet, she still kicking and lunging she is better at been groomed and lead but still long way to go unfortunately nothing works in respect of discipline with her she so used to been abused that no longer reacts to anything like a little tap which to be fair I would rather not do anyway I'm doing the gentle approach lots fuss reassurance and just plenty time spent on her, fear that she may have Been pushed too far but will see. Anyway just persevere balance discipline with softness and just give him time
     
    12-16-2010, 11:37 PM
  #5
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Did you know her before you got the horse or do you only know her because of the horse?
     
    12-16-2010, 11:40 PM
  #6
Foal
If he was fine before is there any chance there maybe something wrong with him or irritating him? Or he may be testing you my new horse did that other day was fine to catch first couple days then tried it on with me rearing up spinning round ears back so I just ran at him then walked away he did same again ran at him turned round walked away stood with my back turned he came to me after realising I wasn't scares of him
     
    12-16-2010, 11:40 PM
  #7
Foal
I was just thinking that alexS if you don't know her properly do you know it's the truth?
     
    12-16-2010, 11:51 PM
  #8
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I was completely played by a person I bought a horse from a few years ago, she even stayed in contact with me and still played the game.
I assume this is what you meant skypheonix?
     
    12-16-2010, 11:58 PM
  #9
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
Did you know her before you got the horse or do you only know her because of the horse?
Sort of. Well let's put it this way - she is someone I trust very much. I have a very good friend (her name is Rube) whom I've known for a long time, and SHE is friends with the girl (Beth) who had George right before me. Rube has known Beth for quite a while now, and has dealt with Beth before regarding horses. Beth is a soft-hearted woman and mother who has some of her own horses plus rescues horses. George was one of her rescues. She basically took him in because no on else wanted him ... but she knew she wasn't going to be keeping him and her plans were to find him a good home. Beth had him for approx. A month. During that time he was a gentle giant who never tried biting or showing any bad behavior. He wasn't affectionate, but he wasn't rude or over bearing either. Just a good ole boy who she could do anything with (as well as her kids).
I totally trust her and believe her.

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If he was fine before is there any chance there maybe something wrong with him or irritating him? Or he may be testing you ...
I can't figure out anything that would be wrong with him ... I don't "see" anything wrong physically, etc. I was wondering to if perhaps he's testing me. But even if he is .. why me ? Why didn't he do the same thing when he first arrived at Beth's farm ? Why was he so good for her and now he's acting like this for me ? I just don't understand. Sigh. I need a horse psychiatrist ! Ugh.
     
    12-17-2010, 12:03 AM
  #10
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Sounds to me like he might be building trust, that comes with testing people to see if he is right to trust. People do the same thing.
     

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