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    04-15-2011, 10:57 PM
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Foal
I'm at my wits end!

Here is the story, just so this all makes sense. (You don't have to read all this.)

Lady, is a tb cross mare that was born at our farm 7 years ago. We did not have the time to put into her, so she became a pasture pet. Her mother died, less than 24 hours after the birth, so we were forced to bottle feed her. At one day old, the vet ( who was supremely scared of equines) put the nose twitch on her. 1 DAY OLD. After this, she started to develop bad habits, like crowding, biting, headbutting and kicking. We didn't have the knowledge to stop this, so we left her in the pasture for seven years (taking care of her of course). She cannot pick up her feet, she is very very aggressive, and such. Since we sold my project, Keeper, I have taken her in as my new project.

Now, this is my current situation:

I have gotten her out of kicking and biting, (but you can never turn your back on her) and I have gotten so far. She loves the bridle, and I have gotten on her a couple of times. Recently, she has become VERY cinch sour. I can put the saddle and pad on, scratch her stomach, brush her stomach, but as soon as the cinch goes near her stomach , she kicks at it, tries to bite it etc. Its not ME she`s trying to kick or bite either, its the cinch. T`s like she has this eternal hate on for the cinch. Today, I took it off of my saddle, and swung it around etc to see what her problem was. I can hang it off of her head, on her neck, on her back, and she just stands like an angel, but when it gets near her stomach, poof, she changes in a snap. Once I tighten it, I always run my hand under my cinch to free any pinched skin or bunched hair, well, she goes HAYWIRE when I try this. But, without the cinch, I can scratch like no tomorrow. All her tack fits, and she has no pain any where (already had her vet checked). I can do almost anything with her other wise. (She has put up with A LOT from me) I can spend hours yanking on her ever tangled tail with a comb, or braiding her mane and tail, I can brush her for hours, I have even experimented with rope and her saddle pad (Hanging it on her head, under her legs, etc.)She is an amazingly sweet horse when you look past her hard outer layer. Some people just don`t see that though. But does any one have any ideas about her girth ? I use a wool girth, but I will be switching to neoprene on Wednesday. I appreciate any help!
     
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    04-15-2011, 11:32 PM
  #2
Green Broke
How have her feet gotten proper care in 7 years if her feet can't be picked up?
     
    04-15-2011, 11:39 PM
  #3
Yearling
Have you been able to cinch it up all the way yet? I would let her "buck it out" in a roundpen.

*edit* I re-read and it appears that she needs other things "fixed" before the saddle training comes in. I would go back to basic respect on the ground.
     
    04-15-2011, 11:39 PM
  #4
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Originally Posted by RodeoLoco    
At one day old, the vet ( who was supremely scared of equines) put the nose twitch on her. 1 DAY OLD. After this, she started to develop bad habits, like crowding, biting, headbutting and kicking.

This is the problem, in my opinion - and not for the reasons you think. You are making excuses for your horse, feeling sorry for it, and so allowing these things to happen, well because it is understandable.

It is not acceptable, no matter what. And you need to be assertive and make it stop.
     
    04-16-2011, 12:53 AM
  #5
Weanling
That is the EXACT same thing that my Dodo Bird was doing to me! I was like CRAP! I'm stuck between a leg swingin at me and those giant teeth. It was like I was dealing with two totally different horses within a matter of seconds!
But, we got it nipped with two butt tons of grooming, desensitizing to the girth strap itself, which I originally thought was the problem and a little poof of air from a bottle toward his nose every time he started his BS.
The scariest thing was not giving in and moving my feet. I had to practice aLOT of breathing and make sure I was centered where he couldn't get me.
I tried numerous things, though, that worked well with other horses.
When he would lash out, I would slap a piece of leather against my leg to make a loud noise. I tried biting him back. I tried stomping my foot each time. These things DID work, just not for him.
My problem personally, was a respect issue, nothing more, so if that's what you're dealing with, I agree 100% with the others who have posted.
Good Luck!!!
     
    04-17-2011, 08:26 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
How have her feet gotten proper care in 7 years if her feet can't be picked up?
She has never needed her feet done. She has went shoeless and has never been trimmed. I think this is because of the 24 hour pasture in the summer, witch has tonnes of different terrains.
     
    04-17-2011, 08:26 PM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by lacyloo    
Have you been able to cinch it up all the way yet? I would let her "buck it out" in a roundpen.

*edit* I re-read and it appears that she needs other things "fixed" before the saddle training comes in. I would go back to basic respect on the ground.
She does have respect on the ground. She leads well, and I do not need to lunge her.
     
    04-17-2011, 08:28 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
This is the problem, in my opinion - and not for the reasons you think. You are making excuses for your horse, feeling sorry for it, and so allowing these things to happen, well because it is understandable.

It is not acceptable, no matter what. And you need to be assertive and make it stop.
I still give her proper discipline. I take no pity on her now. I do not feel sorry for her. This was when she was younger. I am just starting her training now.
     
    04-17-2011, 08:29 PM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by lacyloo    
Have you been able to cinch it up all the way yet? I would let her "buck it out" in a roundpen.

*edit* I re-read and it appears that she needs other things "fixed" before the saddle training comes in. I would go back to basic respect on the ground.
Oh, and yes, I have gotten her cinched up all the way, and I do not have access to a round pen, only my large pasture.
     
    04-17-2011, 09:02 PM
  #10
Banned
At one day old, the vet ( who was supremely scared of equines) put the nose twitch on her. 1 DAY OLD. After this, she started to develop bad habits, like crowding, biting, headbutting and kicking.

So you are saying that you can tell that she was going to be a perfect angel until the vet twitched her? Umm...big hole in that logic.

I am not one to push the professionals but this girl needs one. If she is 7 and has never even had her feet professionally handled, she is way behind. A trainer is your best and safest bet.
     

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