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post #1 of 5 Old 03-12-2012, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
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I'm needing a new bit to ride my mare X Country....

Hi Everyone,

I had my first Horse Trials on my OTTB mare on the weekend, and found an area that needs drastic improvement!

I have been doing all my riding (Dressage, SJ, XC Schooling, Fitness gallops) in a Sprenger Duo loose ring snaffle - it is a bit with a plastic mouthpiece shaped to give the tongue more room. She absolutely LOVES this bit.

I changed to the Duo after riding her in a KK training bit - she would go ok in this bit, but would never actively seek contact.... She is much better after the change...

Anyway, all was well for the Dressage and SJ phases, but come XC - I had almost NO control! She would poke her nose out in front so her face was almost horizontal to the ground everytime I would half halt her or try to slow her down (even well before a jump, or just to turn on course!)

I have been trying to think of another bit to try, and I know sprenger make a Duo bit in a 3 and 4 ring gag... I was wondering if the added poll pressure would help me to pull her up, and stop her tossing her head about?

I want to stick with this mouth piece as I know she loves it, but I need something additional to help the brakes!

The rest of the time I ride her she has an ultra soft mouth....

I was riding XC with a hanovarian noseband with the drop part, and I was using a breastplate with rings...

Thoughts??
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post #2 of 5 Old 03-13-2012, 11:40 AM
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Hi Everyone,

I had my first Horse Trials on my OTTB mare on the weekend, and found an area that needs drastic improvement!

I have been doing all my riding (Dressage, SJ, XC Schooling, Fitness gallops) in a Sprenger Duo loose ring snaffle - it is a bit with a plastic mouthpiece shaped to give the tongue more room. She absolutely LOVES this bit.

I changed to the Duo after riding her in a KK training bit - she would go ok in this bit, but would never actively seek contact.... She is much better after the change...

Anyway, all was well for the Dressage and SJ phases, but come XC - I had almost NO control! She would poke her nose out in front so her face was almost horizontal to the ground everytime I would half halt her or try to slow her down (even well before a jump, or just to turn on course!)

I have been trying to think of another bit to try, and I know sprenger make a Duo bit in a 3 and 4 ring gag... I was wondering if the added poll pressure would help me to pull her up, and stop her tossing her head about?

I want to stick with this mouth piece as I know she loves it, but I need something additional to help the brakes!

The rest of the time I ride her she has an ultra soft mouth....

I was riding XC with a hanovarian noseband with the drop part, and I was using a breastplate with rings...

Thoughts??
Just an idea, she may have been puling forward because she doesn't like the bit and when you applied pressure she felt it. I'm a little fuzzy on why you had to change from the bit she loved? May I suggest trying out bitless if the other bit doesn't work and she seems to be having a reaction to the new one?

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post #3 of 5 Old 03-13-2012, 11:44 AM
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My mare is similar, and I found that the gag bit (which I use on trails and in high-stress situations) allows me to stay out of her mouth. I literally cannot pull hard enough on her arena bit to effect a one rein stop on the trails, (She loves to run) but with the gag, I can ride with one finger and no worries. She knows its there and doesn't test it....
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Just an idea, she may have been puling forward because she doesn't like the bit and when you applied pressure she felt it. I'm a little fuzzy on why you had to change from the bit she loved? May I suggest trying out bitless if the other bit doesn't work and she seems to be having a reaction to the new one?
she is using the bit the horse loves right now, but she is having trouble with control on cross country.


How are her half halts out in the open ? I am never one to change bit as a first try [not that sometimes a different bit isnt needed]. I would school her in the open, that when you half halt and she doesnt slow down you halt her-or halt and back if she's being really bad about it.

Also, do you know how to do a pully-rein ?

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When you try to half halt her on XC, does she just keep going like you're not there, or respond with that head flipping nonsense? The first is an ineffective bit. The second is more a training issue, usually worked out by trotting jumps in the open and doing frequent gallop/canter/trot transitions between fences.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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