I would imagine you are the problem here, in that you are babying this horse, and not effectively correcting him.
And the patience deal with a horse, comes from leaving it tied and ignoring it. Horse is going to throw a fit, but will figure it out about 4 hours or so down the road. And during that time, people need to ignore him.
And if you can't get his attention in round pen, or from ground, you are going to be in trouble when riding. And if he is sweat drenched, then you are not lunging him correctly, he is not supposed to be worn out, he is supposed to be paying attention. You are doing this wrong, simply put.
The backing up deal is ineffective at the best of times for many things. Pushing is one of them. It teaches nothing, especially if the handler goes through a huge process to get it done. It becomes a game, not a correction.
This horse has not one bit of respect for you. You may be babying, soothing, or just irritating him when you do something, but trust me, he still does not respect you.
Instead of backing him up when he fidgets, give a sharp tug on lead rope/crosstie and tell him to stand still. And use a low mean voice. And then shut up. Don't yammer at this horse and talk him to death. Just be quiet.
The pushing into you, shows you are not his equal and darn sure not his boss either. He is treating you as subservient to him, and someone he can run over.
He will be no better anywhere else. It is you who is the problem. Horse is reacting as you are allowing him to.
Tie him and leave him. Correct him FIRMLY and expect him to listen. If you have been in habit of ignoring him when he does something, you are teaching him to misbehave.
And frankly, if I had been in the barn, I would not have offered to help either, if I felt like it was something the handler/owner was doing to make the horse behave like an idiot.
Too many times, experienced horse people could help, but their advice is ignored, or it is obvious the people aren't going to use it. And if you were making a production out of "stand still, back up, stop that" you were probably getting on everyone's nerves.
You would benefit from someone giving you lessons on horse handling, not riding or ground work, but just plain old fashioned horse handling.
Horses make me a better person.
Last edited by Palomine; 08-28-2012 at 05:05 PM.