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    04-22-2011, 07:32 AM
inconsiderate rider - wwyd?

Okay, so I was riding my cousin's gelding, Gray, in the arena yesterday. All fine, he's happy and stretching. Three minutes into my ride, one of the other people who grazes on the property also came into the arena from the canter track. She thinks she's a big time dressage rider with her Innova saddle (y'know, the Bates saddle with the big knee rolls to force your leg position) and her fancy big warmblood, and she's false-extending her horse's front end all around the arena.

Absolutely no consideration as to who else was also in the arena. I'm just walking some simple patterns - big figure 8s and the like - and hoping to work in a little trotting. Because I still don't know what Gray is like, he's got a bit of red in his tail so no one can complain there was no warning if he does kick.

Now this other rider starts cantering around the arena, so I move off the outside track to give her room. At this point Gray is getting quite worked up because there's another horse moving fast around him. I dismounted and headed towards the gate so I can leave this woman to her cantering. I'm opening the gate just after she goes past, but all of a sudden this woman decides to circle right next to the gate, when she had previously been around the entire 20x40 arena. She was heading down the long side away from me as I was opening the gate.

I'm stuck on the ground trying to open a gate with a 17h Oldenburg tank cantering straight at me (well, figuratively speaking - he's crooked as a dog's hind leg) and a worked up Gray jerking my arm around. Gray spooked and her horse got kicked before he barged the gate open. I took him out to the - empty - canter track and walked a lap to try calm him down before unsaddling.

Luck has it that she's waiting for the vet while I'm untacking. Vet arrives, and she proceeds to whinge and moan about how I got in her way and made my horse kick hers. HARDLY. I would have been out of her hair before she came round, even with her galloping giraffe, if she had continued round the arena. But no, instead of being a little patient or even circling at the other end of the ****ed arena, she had to cause a huge problem.

Gray is still a little freaked, and when she walked her horse past me and Gray to her box, he reared and fell over. Didn't hurt himself, but for once I'm glad he's in a paddock by himself because he seems absolutely terrified of this horse. This other rider even had the balls to tell the vet to send the bill to me. Thankfully he's also my vet so I talked to him about the whole thing when he checked Gray over. Bill is going to her, though I feel like sending her an envelope full of acid instead, and Gray finally settled down after a feed and some valerian root.

So, red ribbon clearly visible in his tail aside, what would you have done? I felt like punching her in the face after this, especially since I don't know what state Gray's going to be in tomorrow. I know I did the right thing at the time - calming Gray - but I still feel guilty as hell that her horse got kicked (isn't major though, just a little scratch on his barrel).

I'm not this rider's friends. I don't even know her beyond saying hello/goodbye if I see her at the yard, so I'm not interested in salvaging any friendship. I'm more interested in salvaging Gray's arena attitude, and I would appreciate any hints on helping him overcome any fear he might develop due to today's episode.
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    04-22-2011, 07:47 AM
You can't fix stupid. With the attitude she apparently has, there is nothing you can do or say that calm any future encounters. To keep peace, the only thing you can do is to ignore her and do your best to avoid her - otherwise there will only be future confrontations.
    04-22-2011, 07:47 AM
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You did everything right and don't feel guilty! I would be livid at the fact of her irresponsible reaction and the way she clearly did not avoid getting too close. And to tell the vet to give you the bill was uncalled for. Good for you to tell the vet the circumstance and that he sent her the bill anyway. As for his fear of this horse, he must know that this horse is a dominant horse and felt a need to get out of the way. Poor horse. But my advice would be to completely stay away from her and her horse and if you are excersising your horse and she comes into the arena then I would just get out of there. That sucks but it prevents any further trouble. Good luck.
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    04-22-2011, 09:13 AM
Thanks guys, it helps to know that other people don't think I'm a fool. The other rider isn't at the yard when I'm there most of the time, and I hope that doesn't change because of her attitude. I've also talked to the owner and manager, and they're going to look into the matter (I know they're serious because the last time a horse got injured due to rider fault in their yard they kicked them off the property). They also went out and checked on Gray for me, and he was standing on the far side of his paddock to the horses over the fence. Probably a coincidence, but I'm hoping he'll be alright.

Iridehorses, too bad there isn't a cure, right? I feel so guilty that her horse, who I like a lot more than his owner, got hurt though. But only bad riders need horses that won't avoid getting kicked because he doesn't want a jab from her spurs.
    04-22-2011, 09:57 AM
Green Broke
Ugh, what an inconsiderate, stupid person. Really, if you put something in the tail (lucky you did eh?) and were keeping out of her way to the best of your ability then there really isn't much else you can do.

Where did the kick impact on her horse? Was the vet called because he sustained an injury? Awful situation, I feel sorry for both horses and you.
    04-22-2011, 10:05 AM
How stupid!

I suppose the only thing you can really do is get your horse used to having others move past him, but this girl won't have helped his confidence at all!
    04-22-2011, 10:05 AM
It shouldn't have mattered if you had a red ribbon in his tail or not. With only two people in the arena there was no reason for the other rider to be that close to you.

I had something similar done to me but I fixed the other rider and caused their horse to go bonkers in the show ring and lose a ribbon.
    04-22-2011, 10:09 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Spyder    
I had something similar done to me but I fixed the other rider and caused their horse to go bonkers in the show ring and lose a ribbon.
Oh so evil I like it!

I must admit that I always put something red in Bobbie's tail when I am taking her out to a show as she is a completely different horse in that environment, very unpredictable. So far people have been very respectful of her space and understanding of the situation. If nothing else then for their own (and their horses) self preservation. So far she has never kicked, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did one day.

It takes a special type of idiot to tempt fate with the business end of a horse.
    04-22-2011, 10:25 AM
Originally Posted by sarahver    
Ugh, what an inconsiderate, stupid person. Really, if you put something in the tail (lucky you did eh?) and were keeping out of her way to the best of your ability then there really isn't much else you can do.

Where did the kick impact on her horse? Was the vet called because he sustained an injury? Awful situation, I feel sorry for both horses and you.
Yeah. I mean, Gray started bouncing around a little because there was another horse, but I was in the middle of the arena when that started, which is when I got off anyway.

Gray booted him in the side, maybe at the end of his ribs - but he's only got front shoes on at the moment so not as bad as it could have been. Murphy (I think that's his name, heh) is a bit tender with a scratch, but it's possible Gray caught the rider in the leg as well. I didn't get a close look, but she was probably over reacting by calling the vet, who just purple'd the scratch and said he'd be fine.
    04-22-2011, 10:28 AM
You should have opened that hole underneath your nose and told her to slow her horse down and move away. Don't expect others to read your mind. Of course the best thing you could do would be to teach YOUR horse some manners so he doesn't barge through the gate or kick at other horses. I would have taken the opportunity to train on my horse and get him over being so nervous around other horses.

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