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post #11 of 16 Old 09-08-2013, 01:01 PM
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I agree that your 'trainer' is not up to par if she does not know how tomstop a horse kicking.

You are also not very experienced in horse language because a horse will always give warning before it kicks, the tail swishes tension in muscles, sometimes ears back and certainly 'that’ look in its eye.

I will not tolerate kicking under any circumstances, I do not care if a horse has a gash on its leg and is in pain, I have to treat that gash and he will have more sense than to try to frighten me from doing so, more than once.

Reading the language can stop a kick before it materialises and knowing how to deal with a horse that has just kicked will stop it doing so a second time.
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To me it depends on the kicking, there is the peed off I am used to having my own way and I'm sulking kicking. There is, you are putting to much pressure on me and I'm not sure what to do. Kicking like that I can understand, and you can work with, LOL I had to with Big Bert, when she was kicking when I was trying to dress her hock every day.

Then there is the line up and deliberately take a kick at you, with the intention on connecting and hurting, that is a whole 'nother ball game and yes, in that case I would consider final solutions
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My daughter inherited a 6 year old Percheron. It has been a weird year for him. His owner died in February and he was shipped from him home and his best friend in July. He has basically been left in the field for 4 years and hasn't had any good work done with him. We have a fantastic barn and a fantastic trainer. He has kicked a couple of times - once barely missed the trainer with both back legs during a light workout and the second time he kicked me squarely in the knee (waiting on the results of the MRI). When I asked the previous owners mom about his kicking, she said that he has kicked the owner twice when he was two and sent her to the hospital so he was put away and not worked - like he was when he kicked me. When he kicked me, we were working on ground manners and he didn't give any warning, just "cow kicked" me as I was getting him out of my space.
This week, we had an awful workout - his trainer and two other seasoned handlers worked him for 1.45 hours and at the end of the session, he kicked back twice. The second workout the next day he didn't kick out at all.
So here is my quandary. The trainer says to sell him because he is dangerous and unpredictable, or put him down. The mother of the previous owner said that the owner used to ride him all the time (saddle was a bad fit) or they put pallets behind him and he pulled them and it was fun. She stated that this behavior is unusual and usually he is sweet and gentle.
Could this behavior be because he has had so many changes in his life in such a short period of time and we are working him and he is not used to it? The previous owner had so many health issues that she couldn't work him properly at all during his 4 years with her so he is so green.
Do I give up on him and sell him or hope that with proper training he will come around? He isn't dumb and is very smart.
Any advice would be great!
I'm confused - what you have stated above seems contradictory to me.

Was he ridden all the time or was he off for 4 years?

Then, the previous owners mother stated that he was sweet and gentle but that he kicked and sent the previous owner to the hospital?

Maybe it's the way this is written but it doesn't make sense to me.
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Like the others have said, your trainer does not seem like one I'd want to work with. Maybe you don't have much horse experience, but that's why the trainer is there, and she at least should have known that giving a new horse in a new environment long workouts with different people on consecutive days is unfair to the horse. I would hope a trainer would take it more slowly with the poor guy.

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It's hard to say without seeing the circumstances he is in when he kicks. I definitely don't feel that this is something that a horse would need to be put down, or even re-homed for at this point.

He has been unworked for years....he needs time and consistency in his training. It needs to start off for short periods, but with a goal each time...gradually add more. I think it is ridiculous to work a horse for 1.45 hours. The horse was probably very confused as to be what the trainer was even asking of him and the trainer just kept pushing expecting something....which obviously never happened.

I own a percheron and a draft cross. I am thinking there is good reason for the behavior. I'm guess hoof or muscle problems. I would make sure his hooves are in shape. His muscles, I'm sure, are not responding well to what ever work out he is getting, since they are weak and unused. He may be arguing in protest after the workout because of that. Also, if he has something like EPSM, his muscles may be cramping up after working out. Need to rule out quite a few things and have some consistency with his training before making any drastic decisions.
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