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post #1 of 24 Old 01-23-2008, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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Interesting site!!!!!

I saw a post about Rollkur in a thread about getting a horse on the bit. I had heard of it before but I didn't know much. I found this site on google and found it quite interesting and helpful.

What do you think????
http://www.sustainabledressage.com/tack/index.php

(check out the chainsaw bit in the bridle and bits section!!! )
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post #2 of 24 Old 01-23-2008, 06:06 PM
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ok wooowww.. that's awful! That bit is just crazy! Who would do that to a horse??!?!?!?!
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yeh I know!!! poor horse.
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post #4 of 24 Old 01-23-2008, 06:11 PM
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I think the RollKur, if used correctly, might help in flexion, however I don't understand it's use when used for long periods of time.
Trainers say it should be used for 10 seconds or so, followed directly by extension of the neck... unfortunately this is rarely the case.
I prefer to have my horses just hold a nice frame (neither in front of nor behind the vertical) through most of a workout, with appropriate breaks and neck extensions.
The RollKur is very popular right now, and is the topic of much debate.

I looked at the website, and couldn't find a "chainsaw bit"... could you please post the link?


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I just want to note:

Just about anyone can find something wrong with any training technique in one way or another.


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http://www.sustainabledressage.com/tack/bridle.php
It is about a 3rd of the way down the page.
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post #7 of 24 Old 01-23-2008, 06:26 PM
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The bridle pictured on that page? No no that's a regular double bridle, and (again) used properly, is very effective.
I used to use one with my old mare and gelding, as they got up to the levels where I needed that extra little bit of control. It is severe, but I have very soft hands so I didn't have to worry about hurting them at all.
In the wrong hands, as with any bit, yes they can cause damage.


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no it was a bit made out of actual chainsaw pieces!
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no it was a bit made out of actual chainsaw pieces!
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post #10 of 24 Old 01-23-2008, 06:35 PM
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I just wanted to comment on this website... it seems like this lady (lady right?) doesn't like anything!! I think she could find something wrong with using a halter to lead a horse!!
Anyways, that's just my opinion, I don't mind using a snaffle (which to this author is cruel) and I used a double bridle on 3 different horses (or more, can't remember) with no adverse effects.
Sure, some of the equipment there can cause lots of damage, but in the right hands and USED CORRECTLY most of that stuff (especially the training equipment) is meant to be used for only a short period of time and not used severely.


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