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    03-29-2010, 03:10 PM
  #1
Trained
Issues with his leg aids?

Ugh. Just when one problem goes away, another arises.

So my new gelding, Rebel, has been brilliant for everything and everywhere I wanna go. He knows everything and is very supple to my commands.....just one problem....his leg aids are a little but strange.

So here's what he responds to:

Forehand turn - Sliding the outside leg back and moving his butt over. Nothing wrong here.

Sidepass - Nudging his side with my leg behind the girth until he moves over and crosses his legs. But here's the thing....sometime he'll move into my leg instead of against it. I'm very careful to remove my inside leg to let him move over and I tell him "Go over" and nudge with my outside leg, but sometimes he'll sidepass against it in a perfect, happy sidepass.....if it was the right way


Haunch turn: Now, this was the very first leg aid I ever learned. You'd think I could get this one right......Merf. Guess not......When I put my leg on the front of his body he sidepasses. If I really want to move his front over, I have to really move my leg up onto his shoulder and he will drop his head and spin. And he is ninja about it too. But I have to bring my leg so far up that it's so uncomfortable and it screws up my seat for the spin when my leg is all the way up over his shoulder.


He knows everything, its just he has some quirks that I need to know how to work out. Especially that haunch turn. Sidepassing isn't necessary for my type of competition but spinning certainly is! Imagine the look on the judges face if I went into the reining arena and had to put my leg all the way up his breast collar to get a spin.


Help, please?
     
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    03-29-2010, 04:23 PM
  #2
Banned
What rein aids are you using? What seat aids are you using?
     
    03-29-2010, 05:22 PM
  #3
mls
Trained
Almost sounds like he was trained opposite of what most folks do.

There are people that teach the horse to move into pressure. I have been told it is to control the depth of the movement. I just don't understand how it is different than having the horse move away from pressure - which to me is common sense . . .
     
    03-29-2010, 06:48 PM
  #4
Banned
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Originally Posted by mls    
Almost sounds like he was trained opposite of what most folks do.

There are people that teach the horse to move into pressure. I have been told it is to control the depth of the movement. I just don't understand how it is different than having the horse move away from pressure - which to me is common sense . . .
That's a good point, and very possible. I've ridden one of those before...that was, umm....interesting...went to make a 15m circle, inside leg on to create bend and...whammo...horse turned right into my leg and we were facing the other way.
     
    03-29-2010, 08:31 PM
  #5
Yearling
One of the joys of an already "trained" horse. For the sidepassing I would use a gentle opening rein so he knows which direction you want to go but don't let him get over bent so keep a gentle pressure on the "outside rein" to keep him straight. And make sure you aren't leaning one way or the other with your weight. You don't want to confuse him by leaning into the direction he is going.

As for the spinning same thing. You are going to have a train a whole new cue. Pick a spot where you want the turn on the haunches to be, then open your leading rein, sit up tall and ask him with your new cue. Same thing applies here to keep him straight, a gentle "outside rein" will keep him from turning himself into a pretzel. Reward the try even if he only moves one foot the direction you want him to go. Then continue to ask with the cue, then your leading rein then harder if you need to with your leg cue. Eventually you will be able to ask with the cue and then the harder you ask the faster he will spin. Make sure that you always practice slow AND fast spins so that if you ever just need to move his front end over you can do that too. You can also have two cues, one for a spin and one for a slower turn on the haunches but that can get confusing. The key is repetition. If you wanted to yell Fire! And have him spin in circles you could do it if you matched the words to the aids. As I'm sure you already know. Good luck with your retraining and keep us posted!
     

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