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    08-03-2009, 12:41 PM
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Issues with tieing to the rail

OK. Here is the problem. As I mentioned number of times before my paint was really afraid of being tied (after being in stall on rope 24/7 for the whole month with people dragging here around with that rope). So I got that "release ring" (I think Clinton Anderson has it on his website, as well as Dover). Basically it lets the rope slides thru when the horse panics and pulls back too much.

So it worked absolutely wonder for 1.5 years or so. But last week she figured out that if she pulls it and then rears she can pull through all rope (or at least enough) and get away to the grass (or to follow me - whatever). She is NOT doing it in great fear or anything, but because she KNOWS it works and takes advantage of it (she's not stupid). My biggest concern is this is a rail with the tieing post in middle so if she'll rear too close to that rail in principle she can land front legs OVER the rail. Not good. I tied her to the tree and she was fine, but the tree location is not really good, plus I can't expect tree to be around if I haul her somewhere.

So my question is - what's the best way to stop that? If I tie her to the rail in "normal" way (meaning no pull through allowed) short enough (like 1 - 1.5 feet from the rail so she wouldn't have enough space to rear) would that solve the problem or she may panic being tied so short?
     
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    08-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Did you try increasing the pressure on the tie ring so she can't pull it through as easily? If you haven't, I'd try that before tying her as you described.
     
    08-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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I tie all my horse solid. I do not use gimics. I do not use a halter for the purpose to tying. I use a neck rope. It is a rope about 8 feet or longer in length with a good snap on the end and a solid ring knotted in the rope so when the rops is around the horse's neck and snapped to the ring it is not snug but not too loose either.
No horse will break this rope and the end of the rope is threaded through the halter ring and then the horse is tied by this neck rope.
I live in amish country and hundreds of horses are tied outside the church, at the market and every one, every one is tied with a neck rope, no exceptions.
I tie all my horses with the neck rope and only use the halter to guide the head.
I tie about 1 arms length of slack and try for about wither height.
I feel those sliding rings are only gimics, a band aid to cover up a real problem.
Get a neck rope and tie her hard and solid to the rail and let her work it out.
I also feel that a heavy rope stretched between 2 trees and a horse tied off in the center of this high line using a neck rope is totally escape proof and can not do itself harm. We high line our endurance horses for days on end with never a problem in the last 25 years of doing this.
     
    08-03-2009, 01:23 PM
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The great thing about that ring is that you can increase the pressure/difficulty to pull through. You basically put it through normally and then put it back over itself... he explains this in his videos and every description he gives of his tie ring. By upping the pressure, the horse cannot pull through as easily, but if there is a major freak out, he can still "escape", albeit with more difficulty.

I will see if I can find a youtube video of him explaining it.
     
    08-03-2009, 01:38 PM
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Folks, I tried. :) I know you can loop it twice and it's much harder to pull. But if it CAN be pulled, she puts just enough strength to pull. As I said she's not stupid.
     
    08-03-2009, 01:59 PM
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Then don't use the tie ring. Use a good ol' fasioned quick release knot.
     
    08-03-2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
Then don't use the tie ring. Use a good ol' fasioned quick release knot.
That would be my suggestion.
     
    08-03-2009, 02:29 PM
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So if tie her HOW close. Would 1-1.5 feet be enough? I generally leave more then that, but with the rearing it can be way too dangerous.
     

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