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post #171 of 176 Old 11-09-2013, 12:28 PM
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Oh Lover of Dapple Grey Irish Draught horses, I must disagree. I can't envisage in any way what the training of a powerful four legged equine has in common with a joyful dalliance on a moonlight evening with a member of the opposite sex. Unless, of course, you are referring to the sloppy lick which a kindly horse might give you after being handed a tidbit at the end of a training session.
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...I can't envisage in any way what the training of a powerful four legged equine has in common with a joyful dalliance on a moonlight evening with a member of the opposite sex...
Ummm...both horses and women are wont to say "Neighhhhh!!!!!!!!"?

Maybe I need to offer my significant other "a tidbit at the end of a training session"? I wonder if my wife would like some alfalfa pellets. They work great with Mia.

"Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing...well, ignore it mostly."
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Well, I must admit that I have been prone to refer to my dear beloved of almost 50 years as "Her Indoors" - whereas, sadly, DiDi, the Irish Huzzy of an equine was for a few years only "the Love of my Life". I was always well aware that a bunch of exotic flowers and a candle lit dinner could have an amazing effect on the female, whereas a handful of fresh green spring grass accompanied by a gentle stroke with the fingers was all it was needed to please the mare in my life.
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Well, this thread has really taken a drift.
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Ummm...both horses and women are wont to say "Neighhhhh!!!!!!!!"?

Maybe I need to offer my significant other "a tidbit at the end of a training session"? I wonder if my wife would like some alfalfa pellets. They work great with Mia.
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Well, I must admit that I have been prone to refer to my dear beloved of almost 50 years as "Her Indoors" - whereas, sadly, DiDi, the Irish Huzzy of an equine was for a few years only "the Love of my Life". I was always well aware that a bunch of exotic flowers and a candle lit dinner could have an amazing effect on the female, whereas a handful of fresh green spring grass accompanied by a gentle stroke with the fingers was all it was needed to please the mare in my life.
Oh heavens!
So you two think!
It always makes me snigger when the male of the species think they have 'won'!
They never seem to learn that the females never forget and will bring up a transgression at any time!

The horse of my life took wits and cunning to get him into my best horse ever.
Even then he would throw in a challenge every now and then and I would let him have his fun but, he knew whee the line as and who was the boss and it wasn't him.
Just the same as a happy marriage!
Females are usually the everyday leaders.
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I haven't read all the replies, but there is a lot of "equipment" that, when in the "right hands", is in no way abusive. However, in the wrong hands it can and often does mean some poor horse suffers physical discomfort and confusion.

I like to believe most riders/trainers keep an open mind and keep learning their whole riding/training career. I have always been at the opposite end of "abusive". But, I figured out pretty early on that not communicating something clearly to anyone, be it a horse or dog or human, is inconsiderate and not doing anyone any favors and can lead to confusion and frustration. It is not "gentle", it is just irritating to the horse. It is only fair to communicate clearly. It is abusive if communication goes way beyond "clear direction". I see no problem with spurs, for example, if the horse is trained to them and their use is limited to communicating. I don't put all communication in the "negative" or "positive" reinforcement category. Of course many things can be broken down to "negative/positive reinforcement", but I think a lot of it can also be described as awareness of what one is communicating while remaining considerate of the horse.

The one thing that I think is often missed in the "horse world" is the horse itself. They are highly intelligent - IMPO, much more so than dogs.
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There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it.
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