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        05-05-2013, 08:51 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    The owners of the boarding facility advised the same thing - sitting with her and just spending time with her
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        05-05-2013, 08:53 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Get a halter on her and leave it on. Just in case she needs to be vetted for some reason. She may have been drugged if she was fine at one point and nuts a few hours later. After a day or so start handling her like she was a normal horse and see what you have. You don't need to boss her around or demand a whole lot of her but you do need to make a point of showing her that you are going to handle her and she needs to deal with it.
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        05-05-2013, 09:02 PM
      #13
    Started
    How much training has she had???? Did the previous owner work with her when you were there? You need to know where she is at as far as what she knows.

    You have a young horse, pull out of familiar surroundings, dumped into a strange place with strange people and horses, and got the stuffings thumped out of her last night. Little wonder she is not real friendly. Being able to escape like that would not give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the facility.

    I always want to handle a new horse. Grooming, walking, nothing too much for the first few days. But you need to know how far her training has progressed so you know where to pick it up.
         
        05-05-2013, 09:38 PM
      #14
    Started
    Our new horse is stalled, no contact with out horses...yet!
    The past two days when we went trail riding, Our horse whinnied until the horses came back in sight.
    I'd say it was normal behavior. Our horse will let us touch him, but he is hesitant.
         
        05-05-2013, 09:39 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    I can't even get a halter on her right now because she keeps walking away. I watched the girl work with her a lot. You could put a halter near her face and she automatically put it in. You could even bring her nose down to the ground doing that. She picks up her feet before you even ask. She has under saddle training, w/t/c. She just won't let anyone touch her. As for hey escaping, one side of her area was electric fence and the other was large steel. We have since put up another part of steel fencing and she hasn't escaped, or even tried to. I can stand close to her, almost to where I can touch her without stretching my arm too much, but as soon as I do, she moves. I managed to lay a hand on her shoulder and she didn't like it at all.
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        05-05-2013, 10:49 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    You need to be more aggressive. If she's trained, make her behave. If she wants away , cut her off and don't allow that.
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        05-05-2013, 11:07 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    I donít want to sound as though Iím telling you to be rough on your horse or anything, but the softly softly approach may well be helping, or encouraging, her act up. I worked cattle on some massive places in Australia, and have had to work with plenty of other people and horses. If I went from one cattle station to another, for the day, or a complete move, there was no letting your horses get used to new horses or a new environment. The got there with me, and the next day were in the thick of it with horses, people and cattle they had never seen before. And they did as they were told when they were told.
    It could well be that it may not be so much the move or the new environment that is causing your horse to misbehave but the way everyone is treating it all of a sudden; treating it with kid gloves as though it has been through some traumatic experience. It sounds to me like she is getting bossy and getting it in her head that she is running the show, vis a vis the relationship between her and you.
    She is in a new environment with new horses and needs to figure out where she is in the pecking order, and seems to have gotten you caught up in it and put you, and the people handling her well below herself in that pecking order. In all the times I moved with my horses they had to figure out in relation to the new herd, where they fit in. The one consistency across all moves however was their relations ship with me. If you are a confident and consistent boss for the horse, it will settle in much better than if all of a sudden you start treating it like it has experienced some sort of trauma by moving.
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        05-05-2013, 11:26 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    How do I be more "rough" with her though without hitting myself into a potentially dangerous situation?
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        05-05-2013, 11:30 PM
      #19
    Showing
    If she insists on walking away from you, then make her run away from you. Make sure you are armed with a whip and chase her booty around and then give her a chance to relax and come to you.

    If you aren't confident doing this than I kind of have to question why you'd get a young horse like this in the first place?

    To me just seems like she's training you..
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        05-05-2013, 11:44 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Its not really about being rough, though some people interoperate some techniques as rough. Basically in moving horses its always been my observation and experience that if you just treat them the same as always, so not treating them particularly gently because they are grappling with a new herd and environment, that they do much better. If you treat them with kid gloves all of a sudden 1) it’s very likely that they will think there is something to be worried about and 2) that they can get a notch above you in the pecking order.
    In terms of a practical way of sorting it out? Well think like a horse. You are there to tell your horse what you want, to catch it for example, and she walks off and won’t let you near her. What would the boss mare do in that situation? Sense a challenge to her authority and rip the disrespectful horse into line.
    You want that horse to stand up to be caught, as soon as she takes an eye off you, essentially flipping you the bird, get after her, gesture to her, so kind of a threat that she will get a whack on the backside. If that’s not enough for her, follow through with the threat and give her a whack on the bum. If there’s a jammed tail and/or some laid back ears, give her a bit more of a whack, if she looks like having a kick or a bite, make her think she is about to be eaten alive. As soon as she submits, back off and leave her alone. Start off subtle, only escalate as she needs it, be decisive in your delivery (there’s few more sure fire ways to ruin a horse than continued half hearted and unsuccessful attempts at enforcing your dominance); and know exactly when to back off and give her room. If she does good, don’t bother patting her or telling her she is a good girl. Just leave her be.
    As for doing it safely, well that’s the trick. No horse is worth getting your face kicked in for. If you don’t think you can do it yourself find someone who can. You get an angry or frightened horse in a confined area with no escape, particularly if you are unsure of what to do, then you might well be in some serious trouble.
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