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    08-23-2009, 08:57 PM
Just Load Please Charlie!!!!

Hi All
Just bought a 13 yr old quarter horse 2-3 months ago with our neighbors help, which she is a vet and already has 12 horses on her farm.

Well long story short, Horse's is named Charlie great easy going horse for our daughter age 11 but will not load on trailer. Every thing else horse does extremely well.. BUT will not load into trailer. Even the Vet has tried for last 3 weeks with no luck.. We have tried coaxing him into trailer with treats ect... We have also had the trailer in the pasture with food in it as well.. that horse just does not want to load..

He leans in so far that his legs are shaped like a V.... like he is going to fall on his face but when his legs being to tremble he backs up.... Arrrggggg.. so frustrated at this point..... Would anyone have any other suggestions on getting this horse to load...????

Thanks for any insight
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    08-23-2009, 10:51 PM
What kind of trailer do you have? I had a large appy that would only load into a large sized slant load cause he would freak out in small spaces
    08-23-2009, 10:52 PM
I can't speak from experience on this exactly, but I saw a Clinton Anderson show a while back where he lounged the horse - putting a lot of pressure on it when it was away from the trailer and then letting it rest when it was near the trailer. The horse slowly got closer until he had the horse walk at the lounge right in. He got a break standing in the trialer but the second the horse got worried and tried to back out, he had the horse back fully out and made the horse start lounging all over again. Pretty soon the horse was almost begging to go into the trailer because he knew he could relax in there.

An idea, at least? Sorry I can't help more. My horse Bandit thinks trailers are exciting and likes to get in to explore, and Ziggy isn't ready for one yet. Though... getting Ziggy in the trailer when we picked him up as a fun challenge. It involved two very tough cowboys forcing him in with a gate panel. He almost panicked and tried to rear up and over top of them, though, so it's not something to do unless it's an emergency and you need to get him to the vet ASAP.
    08-23-2009, 11:03 PM
We had the same problem with fria, and now she is to the point that she runs in !! We kept asking, and even if she went in for a second and bolted out it was ok. We never let her win the fight, and so she finally relized we are the boss and what we said goes. It sounds kind of harsh, I know but everytime we let her win it would get harder the next time. We did this everyday, with lots of encouragement and praise. Use pressure. Everytime tthe horse moves a step closer release it, give praise, and then ask again. It works quite well! :)
    08-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Butt rope, butt rope, butt rope.

It's a godsend.
    08-24-2009, 12:20 AM
I saw a Ray Hunt video where he loaded a horse into a narrow two horse trailer with a long line. He sent him back and forth in front of the trailer in kind of a half circle and would take the pressure away only when the horse looked in the trailer. It was a long time ago so I don't remember exactly and I can't recall the title but if you go to rayhunt.com they have the videos for sale pretty cheap considering they are by the Master of Horsemanship. You can e-mail them and they'll tell you which one it is. It's well worth the money.
    08-24-2009, 01:42 AM
Ziggy's advice is straight on as far as how I train or retrain a horse to load; you HAVE to make going into the trailer the 'easy' thing for the horse to do, while him not wanting to go in, becomes difficult, as it means work, work, work!

My last horse was terrified of the trailer because of one bad experience; it's sad because the first time I had him in a trailer he loaded in about 5 minutes, but then the people who I was boarding him with (for the short time I kept him there) decided they could load him themselves, even though he didn't know, or trust them...they wound up pulling him in with a buttrope; I was furious, because I had told them I would load him, and I would be there at such and such a time to do so. At any rate once I started working him to load, the keeping his feet moving method worked fabulous; it did still take roughly an hour of work for him to realize that actually getting in the trailer was what was desired, and once he realized that, he never looked back!

Make the desired behavior easy, and make sure the undesirable behavior is difficult. He will catch on...
    08-24-2009, 02:39 AM
they wound up pulling him in with a buttrope;
Just a note, when I say butt rope, I don't mean tow the horse in with it. We just use it as a barrier, more a mental thing that a physical barrier. Never had it fail yet, and never had to use it more than about 3 times before the horses become self-loaders.
    08-24-2009, 02:45 AM
My horse HATED trailers and anytime we tried the buttrope he would rear up and slam his head into the top of the trailer so of course the butt rope was a BIG failure with us. We tried treats and everything but then we got this weird idea to put a small corral, hog panels or corral panels will work, but we built it around the opening of the horse trailer and we would put a bucket of water in the trailer and food in there. We left the horse like that and he KNEW if he was thirsty or hungry he HAD to go into the trailer. So that night, of course he walks in and drinks and eats. Well we did that for about 4 days. After that, we tried leading him in and he walked right in so then I groomed him for a whole hour inside and he just LOVED it up. Everyday I would take him in the trailer to be groomed for about another 4 days straight and that was the end of his spookiness of the horse trailer. Now he loads into ANYTHING. It is really nice. I know my way seems like a long time but I would rather have a horse go in a trailer on his own so he can enjoy it rather than force him inside. :)
    08-24-2009, 02:48 AM
I know my way seems like a long time but I would rather have a horse go in a trailer on his own so he can enjoy it rather than force him inside. :)
A good aim, but putting the horses food and water in the trailer is definitely forcing them in :]

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