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        01-11-2010, 10:28 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
    Are you directing you post at me?
    Because if you are, you should re-read my posts. And, Otis is a gelding. ~
    Easy killer! Im just putting that out there as a solution I've used and have gotten great result in return. Its for anyone who wants to take it.

    I didn't direct it towards you, if I was going to, then I would have quoted it! But I didn't so calm down and don't be so defensive. We're on here to talk about enjoying horses, not jump down each others throats!
         
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        01-11-2010, 10:30 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Candace09    
    Easy killer! Im just putting that out there as a solution I've used and have gotten great result in return. Its for anyone who wants to take it.

    I didn't direct it towards you, if I was going to, then I would have quoted it! But I didn't so calm down and don't be so defensive. We're on here to talk about enjoying horses, not jump down each others throats!
    ...There was no angry tone in my post at all? I was just asking.
         
        01-11-2010, 11:20 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
    ...There was no angry tone in my post at all? I was just asking.
    That's not how it sounded to me.
         
        01-11-2010, 11:21 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    That's not how it sounded to me.
    Welcome to the internet.
    And where exactly do you come in on this? Simply to ridicule me?
         
        01-11-2010, 11:23 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Years ago, a horse came in whose owner wanted "miles put on her" since she hadn't been ridden for several months. I asked the owner if there was anything I should know about her before I got started and she said "Not really. Except she's a little goosey about her hind feet at times." When she arrived she seemed fine..that is until I put my hand on her hip and she kicked out with both hinds with enough force to lose a shoe! A LITTLE goosey? Riiiigggghhhtt. She had no scars on her hind legs and nothing that would indicate an old injury she might be protective of. And I was going to have to remove the other shoe and thought her kicking out could have been because I was unfamiliar…giving her the benefit of the doubt. I knew her feet had been worked on, she had SHOES on, so I decided to take it slow, call the owner in the morning and find out the name of the farrier she used and talk to him. Sooo, I took the rope and gently swung it so that it would wrap around her hind legs and she EXPLODED into a kicking bucking fit. It was obvious then and there that anything that touched this horse from behind was DEAD MEAT! I did get ahold of the farrier and he said that she had to be tranqed to the point of being laid down to shoe her and that she'd been that way all of her life. Oh lovely! To make a long story short, I put her on a lunge line in the arena, roped her hind foot and lunged her with it on. She bucked, kicked and threw quite the fit, but I just stayed with her. I didn't tighten the rope, I didn't pull on it or throw her off balance with it, I just went with her. After a good while she got tired and calmed down and when she did, I'd lift/pull up on the rope. It took a while, but after a few times of this, she finally stood there and let me lift her foot up with the rope without kicking, and later, without any objection. Then I stood beside her and lifted her foot up and when she accepted that, I took the rope off by hand. Had to repeat it for the other side, but when the horse left here, she would allow her feet to be messed with and would no longer kick out when touched. I'm not saying this is what you should do, I'm only telling you what works for me - and it didn't involve whacking her or endangering either of us.
         
        01-12-2010, 12:27 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Easy folks, easy. I can see how lines got crossed, I think dressagexlee just got a bit defensive over RiosDad correcting her without knowing the entire situation, which is understandable. We're all here to learn, and all great methods so far, thanks for elaborating on that dressagexlee, I think I would have paid to see the look on his face
         
        01-12-2010, 12:46 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
    Easy folks, easy. I can see how lines got crossed, I think dressagexlee just got a bit defensive over RiosDad correcting her without knowing the entire situation, which is understandable. We're all here to learn, and all great methods so far, thanks for elaborating on that dressagexlee, I think I would have paid to see the look on his face
    Exactly.
    And I think Candace also got defensive towards me. I just assumed her post was referring to mine because the OP didn't mention any particular horse, and Candace's reply was worded as "take her and do this", and it was posted right after my replies. And I honestly don't see how she found my question to be "attacking" her? Perhaps I could have worded it differently, but still.

    Yes, Otis was quite shocked! I kind of had a flash of this video through my head. He's always assumed me to be the small child he could push around, but that's definitely changed since last year. He's like, "Aw dang, I can't screw around anymore..."


    Anyways, let's keep this on track and civil, please! <3
         
        01-12-2010, 12:52 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Horse Poor    
    Years ago, a horse came in whose owner wanted "miles put on her" since she hadn't been ridden for several months. I asked the owner if there was anything I should know about her before I got started and she said "Not really. Except she's a little goosey about her hind feet at times." When she arrived she seemed fine..that is until I put my hand on her hip and she kicked out with both hinds with enough force to lose a shoe! A LITTLE goosey? Riiiigggghhhtt. She had no scars on her hind legs and nothing that would indicate an old injury she might be protective of. And I was going to have to remove the other shoe and thought her kicking out could have been because I was unfamiliar…giving her the benefit of the doubt. I knew her feet had been worked on, she had SHOES on, so I decided to take it slow, call the owner in the morning and find out the name of the farrier she used and talk to him. Sooo, I took the rope and gently swung it so that it would wrap around her hind legs and she EXPLODED into a kicking bucking fit. It was obvious then and there that anything that touched this horse from behind was DEAD MEAT! I did get ahold of the farrier and he said that she had to be tranqed to the point of being laid down to shoe her and that she'd been that way all of her life. Oh lovely! To make a long story short, I put her on a lunge line in the arena, roped her hind foot and lunged her with it on. She bucked, kicked and threw quite the fit, but I just stayed with her. I didn't tighten the rope, I didn't pull on it or throw her off balance with it, I just went with her. After a good while she got tired and calmed down and when she did, I'd lift/pull up on the rope. It took a while, but after a few times of this, she finally stood there and let me lift her foot up with the rope without kicking, and later, without any objection. Then I stood beside her and lifted her foot up and when she accepted that, I took the rope off by hand. Had to repeat it for the other side, but when the horse left here, she would allow her feet to be messed with and would no longer kick out when touched. I'm not saying this is what you should do, I'm only telling you what works for me - and it didn't involve whacking her or endangering either of us.

    ^^^ Very very good advice!!
         
        01-12-2010, 12:54 AM
      #19
    Foal
    I like that advice too!
         
        02-13-2010, 03:31 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    I was kicked at a mare from my old riding classes once, right in the thigh when I was trying to catch her. She ran of so I couldn't get her.
    Soo frustrating (:
         

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