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    04-04-2011, 03:17 PM
Kicking colt

I have a yearling full blooded quarter horse I bought Saturday. When I picked him up he didn't act out hardly at all. We had about a two hour drive in the trailer. When we got home I rubbed on him, combed out his mane, picked pooh off of him and lead him around. Even lead him on trails that I have made and he did great! That was Saturday and Sunday, well this morning I went out to tend to him and he turns his rear to me and wants to kick.( he didn't do that the two previous days.) I brought home another full sized Gelding yesterday afternoon and my other two battled it out with the new comer. And the colt was watching the whole thing from his corral. And this morning he was acting just like them. So I guess what I'm asking is how do I correct this? Spank his butt or back legs? I'm not sure. The colt thing is new to me. My other two Geldings I've been working and riding almost everyday, and their doing great! Any comments would be great.
Thank You Very much,
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    04-04-2011, 03:21 PM
If he turns his back end to you and lifts his leg then smack his butt. Make him move his legs and make him move them fast. I do not tolerate that out of any of my horses. You should make him understand straight up that it isn't tolerated.
    04-04-2011, 04:30 PM
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This is what I call the 'new horse - new house syndrome'.

He is among a new 'herd' (you and him) and he is trying to achieve the highest point he can on the new pecking order. It is your place to explain to him in a language he understands (horse herd 'talk') that you are FAR ABOVE him in the pecking order at your house. You are always supposed to be the 'head pecker' - no pun intended, of course.

Since you would get your head kicked off for biting a hunk out of his arse, even if you could, you have to settle for spanking it.

You should take the end of the lead-rope or a 5 foot stock whip and spank his butt with it until he turns and faces you. Then, take all pressure off by backing up a step and just stand there for a minute. Then, approach him again and hopefully he will keep his head turned toward you this time. If he does, just catch him and go on like nothing has happened. If he turns his butt again, spank him harder and repeat the whole process again until he decides turning his butt is bad for his health.

Please DO NOT hit him with your hand or a riding crop. It could get you kicked in the head. If he is trying out his would-be authority, he may also kick hard and may even kick 2 or 3 times -- especially if he got you to 'back off' at any time before this.

Many horses will 'check out the pecking order' when they come to a new place and are handled by different people that they have not yet learned to respect. You should always be ready to show them that you are on the top of his new pecking order. They, more often than not, will try something.
    04-04-2011, 04:36 PM
Instead of a whip you could also use a stick with a bag on the end. I find some horses that won't respect a whip will respect the stick bag combo and then you will never need to actually hit him. Instead you can just drive him away.
    04-04-2011, 04:46 PM
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I sure would NEVER use a whip or stick with a bag on it unless them horse has been thoroughly desensitized to one. [Come to think about it -- I would not use a flag or sack for respect at all.] You don't want a fear or panic response. You want a respect response. I have not seen the horse that even a small person could not make turn around with a whip or the end of a lead-rope.

I do not think you want a fear or panic response to something you may want to later teach him that it is OK and NOT to be feared. JMHO
    04-04-2011, 04:57 PM
Oh ya I can see that. I wouldn't use it to terrorize him or anything but I think that whacking him in the butt maybe unnecessary and that act could potentially cause him to become fearful of the whip - right. Of course no matter what you do it always boils down to how you do it and I think that driving him away is the best thing if a horse is aggressive towards you. You have to be as gentle as possible but as firm as necessary. I've got a horse that doesn't respect a whip but will respect a bag. So guess what I use with him.
    04-04-2011, 06:22 PM
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It sometimes take days to get a horse over being earful of a plastic sack or other flag. If you use a whip -- even have to use it hard on a horse that shows his butt and kicks badly -- you always go right back and rub the horse on the butt with the whip to show him that it was the behavior that caused the spanking and not the whip. I have never had a horse get whip shy. I have had to 'fix' many whip shy horses but not one of them was made that way in my hands.

I have seen horses that would panic and start running backwards kicking with both back feet that thought a plastic sack was equal to a mountain lion.

I know that you could get a really violent reaction out of green scared colt and a flag and consider it 100% inappropriate.

Sorry -- JMHO
    04-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Green Broke
I say, smack him in the butt with a whip. Preferably a dressage whip. You would probably only have to do it a few times. Trust me.. One or two smacks are nothing compared to another horse kicking them.

I don't really like it when people say they will get fearful.. they wont... They will respect you when YOU say you are the boss, but you have to back it up with some kind of force. THAT is how horses work. Please don't take any offense to that I just hate it when people are to scared to hurt their little ponys.
    04-04-2011, 07:59 PM
Is your horse still bucking Ray?
    04-04-2011, 09:30 PM
Thank you everyone for your answers. I used my stick and string and whacked him really good and he got the message. Then I put his halter on and we went for a good trail walk and he didn't try it again. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Thanks again everyone,

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