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    10-19-2010, 12:34 AM
  #21
Trained
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Originally Posted by JustPaint    
If I have to move to get out of the kick zone then didn't I lose?

I guess if I hang around horses long enough I won't be so worried to discipline when I need to. If it was my horse I wouldn't care but I'm not to keen on discpline someone else's horse.

Thanks for the visual Knack for horses. Really helps being a visual learner and all. ;)
A horse who is going to kick you, regardless of "who's" it is, will get reprimanded from me...if the owner gets mad, I really don't care...if he's going to hurt me, I'm going to do what I need to to get him OUT of my space, period; especially if I am out there with him to catch my own horse.

In the case of a loose, kicking horse, you just really have to anticipate his move, and get in a position where you can safely get him moving away, before he can give you the heels. In reality it happens so fast, that the horse really won't associate you moving, with getting out of his way, because you are only moving to give him a better aimed 'kick'. As long as you can get him moving his body away, you just do it; regardless of whether you have to move a tiny bit. Then maybe the next time, you will be able to get him moving away "before" he even turns his hip to you.
     
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    10-21-2010, 01:40 PM
  #22
Foal
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Originally Posted by A knack for horses    
If your life/well being is in jeporady; NEVER be afriad to disipline another persons horse. If the owner wants to get huffy because you were defending your life by smacking a horse with a whip that does little more than remind them whose in charge, they need to get their priorities straight. I love horses and I don't like smacking them, but my life and those of other humans will ALWAYS be more important to me than a horse getting disiplined for doing something wrong.

You're welcome for the drawing...I didn't think I could describe it well enough in words anyway.
I'm not really concerned about the owner at least for the moment, but rather with the temperament of the horse. Like the one that no matter what you do is just persistant and hell-bent on "being disrespectful" to you.

While I do hear that most of the time the horse will "get it" but I've heard stories of some that were just nasty.

When I was leasing I would help feed the other horse sometimes they would become very agressive with each other ranging from kicking, biting, and striking out with me around them. The people told me I needed to be aggressive with them and move them out. But I was afriad of being kicked because I've seen them do it to each other.

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Originally Posted by mom2pride    
A horse who is going to kick you, regardless of "who's" it is, will get reprimanded from me...if the owner gets mad, I really don't care...if he's going to hurt me, I'm going to do what I need to to get him OUT of my space, period; especially if I am out there with him to catch my own horse.

In the case of a loose, kicking horse, you just really have to anticipate his move, and get in a position where you can safely get him moving away, before he can give you the heels. In reality it happens so fast, that the horse really won't associate you moving, with getting out of his way, because you are only moving to give him a better aimed 'kick'. As long as you can get him moving his body away, you just do it; regardless of whether you have to move a tiny bit. Then maybe the next time, you will be able to get him moving away "before" he even turns his hip to you.
If I ever get in a situation like that again, I hope I remember this advise.
     
    10-21-2010, 01:49 PM
  #23
Foal
I'm temporarily boarding right now (we're completely re-seeding our pastures) and there is one in the pasture with my horses that does this. He'll walk right up to me with his ears pinned and whirl his backend around to threaten me. He's never actually kicked me, but I assume he will. I've started going into the pasture with a lunging whip. The minute he shows any sign of aggression towards me I crack that whip at him and he's gone. I don't know how the owner would feel about it...apparently the owner sees the horse a couple of times a year, doesn't ride it, etc. So I figure I'm just going to keep myself safe. Have never touched him with the whip...don't need to. Now that he knows I have it he keeps his distance.
     

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