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post #1 of 5 Old 05-01-2012, 10:39 PM Thread Starter
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Kicking other horses while tied at events

What does a person do about this as far as training. Horse only kicks other horses while tied even if its his buddy? He will push the horse to the end of the rope and then lift his leg to fire. Ignorant I know. Never fires at people or horses under saddle and quits when people are around close to him, his ears come up and he's like a freaking jekyll and hyde!!! Id rather not have to tie a pretty ribbon on his tail at every event, I want to deal with the issue just need some ideas. Thanks
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post #2 of 5 Old 05-02-2012, 04:07 AM
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It sounds to me like your safest bet for everyone involved is to not tie him alongside any other horses lol, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Horses have their individual quirks. He may just be uncomfortable sharing what he may consider his personal space, and if he's young he may grow out of it as he mellows with age, but then maybe not. There are some things that are better to work with rather than fight over, I figure. If he's not behaving the same way with other horses when he's not tied, then you can probably narrow it down to being an individual quirk or preference he has.
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What does a person do about this as far as training. Horse only kicks other horses while tied even if its his buddy? He will push the horse to the end of the rope and then lift his leg to fire. Ignorant I know. Never fires at people or horses under saddle and quits when people are around close to him, his ears come up and he's like a freaking jekyll and hyde!!! Id rather not have to tie a pretty ribbon on his tail at every event, I want to deal with the issue just need some ideas. Thanks
So if he's under saddle standing next to a horse without anyone giving any orders, he's fine?

But if you tie him to another horse, he'll chase that horse away and try to kick them?

What happens if you tie him in between two other horses (sandwiching) ?

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He is not going to 'outgrow' it. He is only going to get worse. I would never put a horse 'in charge' and let him determine what I could do with him.

Spank his butt. Set him up. Duck out of sight and wait for him to misbehave. Then come out and give him a few good licks. It will work even if it is several seconds before you get to him. I know it works because I've been there and done that -- too many times to count.

We do this with every horse we start or get that is older. Most of the more dominant ones will try kicking. We have several feeders hanging on the outside of our pipe arena fence. They are on every post -- ten feet apart. Obviously, that is close enough for them to kick each other. We also haul 8 horses in a stock trailer together. We just tie them all along the left side of the trailer. They stand at a 'slant' without any dividers. They can't be allowed to kick there either. We tie mares right in amongst the geldings. They all behave just as well. We never get in the trailer to load or to back them out. They just jump in and stop right next to the horse in front of them. When we unload, we untie a horse's lead and tell him to back up and he steps back - one step at a time - until he steps out of the trailer.

Since we keep a set of horses for trail riders and train all of our young ones to be trail horses, they just cannot kick at other horses -- no matter what the circumstances are. We also practice leading other horses as we ride. We do not have a horse with more the 15 or 20 saddlings that has not had a horse led of of them.

I've never had to get after one more than 2 or 3 times for kicking -- usually only once. We just consider it part of the training that every horse needs to be able to call him 'broke'.

Make sure you tie one in a safe place. He will probably set back when you get after him so you want a halter and lead on him that he cannot break as well as the horses around him.

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So if he's under saddle standing next to a horse without anyone giving any orders, he's fine?

But if you tie him to another horse, he'll chase that horse away and try to kick them?

What happens if you tie him in between two other horses (sandwiching) ?
He wont kick any horse when im sitting on him, he's nosey sometimes but doesnt think about kicking. If he's TIED beside another horse, and im not standing there close by, he will turn his butt putting the horse beside him at the end of his rope and lift his leg to fire. I havent tried putting him between two horses, just didnt want to risk someone elses horse! Haha

He is the top horse or 'boss' in the pasture with the rest so yes he is dominant and I also do agree with the person that said it is a space or insecurity issue too as well. This horse in particular is a worrier and gets worried/worked up moving around if im out of view for a second. He seems better behaved once he's rode and standing relaxing tied after a workout but that's not usually the case before an event. Seems as long as im standing there, he hasnt a care in the world about the horses beside him.

Its interesting, he's extremely careful around people even with my two year old son he wont move around when my son is in the pasture around him...he will even hold in a sneeze so he doesnt possibly do something wrong. He's extremely well trained, well mannered, easy to handle. I've trained this horse over the last 5 years and the problem with him kicking at other horses hasnt got worse persay, its just stressful when you have to plan out where to tie him at busy places all the time! I have got after him for it but he's too smart for his own darn good.

Thanks everyone for your input, he's coming 9 years old as well.
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