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post #1 of 7 Old 12-27-2008, 11:38 PM Thread Starter
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Kicking problems

My colt has kicking... issues. He doesn't ever try to kick at me or his dam... he doesn't ever try to kick other people, he doesn't even raise a leg and threaten anymore... but he tries his hardest to kick any other horse (besides his dam) who comes near him when I'm out there messing with him.

I noticed it the other day... I was standing in the pasture petting him and my mare and when the youngest filly we have came up wanting to be petted, Dakota turned around so that he was still facing me and pinned his ears at the filly then kicked the crud out of her and ran her off... then he was back to his sweet, normal self. Every time the filly came near, he'd kick at her.

He's the same way with strange horses, or when I'm on his back and any horse besides his dam comes up to him.

When we first got the filly, Dakota showed some jealousy issues aroynd her... wanting to run her off and all, but we didn't really think nothing of it because he was used to being the 'baby' and we all figured it was just him trying to figure out his place in the herd.

What can I do to make this kicking stop?

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post #2 of 7 Old 12-28-2008, 11:00 AM
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I have a 5yrold mare who is also agressive to others when I am visiting. She's not as bad as she used to be now because she has learned that I don't like it. Now, if she does it, I just have to frown at her and it's over.

What I did: everytime the behavior came on, I would be angry with her. If I had a halter and lead on, I would scold her and turn her in the opposite direction. If I was just visiting and had no tack to work with, I would make some kind of agressive move and/or sound -- if I was in proper position, I would push her away. Anything really, to make her understand I wasn't happy with her behavior. If I didn't feel I had control that I could contain the situation, I would be vocally agressive and chase her away. When she was far enough away, I would go and visit the other horse. If she came back, I'd chase her away again. Then I would leave without another look at her.

Like I said, she's much better now. I think you are on track for nipping this jealous / territorial behavior at a young age. Especially in a colt.

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post #3 of 7 Old 12-28-2008, 12:25 PM
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Good post. The first week I owned Cobalt during his 1st or 2nd working session with me, he decided that me running my hand on his belly wasn't something he liked and he gave me a boot. I yelled at him so loudly that I think he's probably still marked for life
The poor guy hadn't really been working with to much yet so everything was new to him and I think he got overwhelmed.

Make sure that if you get that issue more under control before deciding to take him out off your property where other horses are going to be present, especially if he is that rebelly at the moment.
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post #4 of 7 Old 12-28-2008, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice! I'll definately try it and see if it works... I do not want a jealous/territorial colt... I already put red ribbons in his tail when I do ride him (rarely), even if I'm not riding with another horse... but hardly anyone out here understands that it means he'll kick if another horse gets too close to him...

Should I start carring some sort of riding crop and use it to help run him off/get the message through to him when I'm out in the pasture and he threatens one of the other horses? He's extremely desensitized to most everything and I can act like a raging crazy person and he won't move an inch...

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He should already know by the tone of your voice if you are pleased or not with anything he does, regardless of his desensitivity. It's not the craziness of your actions, but the firmness, agression and intrusion into his space with yours that will help. You might want to carry a crop or a lead line with you in the paddock. I like the lead line, because if you twirl it, most horses will go away from that. If not, you keep approaching and eventually, they move or get smacked with the line.

When riding with others, as this becomes more common, remember if you think he's going to kick, turn him to face the other horse. Don't try to get him away from the horse as that only gives his back end a better aim! And use every chance you get to warn others about him -- eventually people will catch on to the red ribbon.

My older mare used to be a bit of a kicker when riding, but isn't anymore. I still warn others to watch if she starts flicking her tail though, jic.
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He knows... Besides his kicking-other-horses problem, he's a very respectful gelding... stays out of my space and doesn't crowd me and is, in general, an awesome horse.. lol.

I'm definately going to be using this advice. Thanks loads!

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post #7 of 7 Old 12-29-2008, 05:28 PM
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You need to scold the colt, get a mean tone, then give the other horses attention and when the other horse comes to chase them off chase him off.
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