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post #11 of 30 Old 12-15-2012, 01:40 AM
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Something to keep in mind is the level of kid you are dealing with.

There are kids who do fine riding and showing young horses, and there are kids who need an older horse that can pack them around and teach them.
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post #12 of 30 Old 12-15-2012, 01:49 AM
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I really didn't mean to sound harsh. Sorry if I did. But I've only seen a few "kid safe" horses in my life. The one that blocked her being one, her pony she has now, and a draft cross that would take being yanked in the mouth and kicked at the same time. Are the top three. And a giant horse of unknown background that a lil girl handed me at a show cause she needed to use the portta potty lol.
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I really didn't mean to sound harsh. Sorry if I did. But I've only seen a few "kid safe" horses in my life. The one that blocked her being one, her pony she has now, and a draft cross that would take being yanked in the mouth and kicked at the same time. Are the top three. And a giant horse of unknown background that a lil girl handed me at a show cause she needed to use the portta potty lol.
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I can understand where your coming from. I just didnt want you thinking I actually thought either gelding was kid-broke. I didnt think you sounded harsh, and Im sorry if I sounded harsh/rude/offended.

I do think some people call horses kid safe when really they are a far cry from being it.

Never forgot the horse that taught you to be fearless (Braveheart RIP) the horse that taught you to stay strong no matter how bumpy the road is (Caesar) and the horse that always had to test gravity by throwing you in the air (Cali)
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post #14 of 30 Old 12-16-2012, 09:48 PM
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A lot depends on what is meant by "kid broke". If it means you are about to buy a horse that's advertised as "kid broke", it likely means it was broke and trained by a "kid". That probably means it is not trained at all and poorly disciplined and that they are selling it because it is getting too ornery for the kid who broke it to handle.

Now if you mean "kid safe", that's another thing. Now it has a couple factors: How old of kids are you talking about? How well do these kids know horses? How old (young) is the horse? If you're looking to buy one, look for one that is at least 12 years of age (horse, not kids). Younger horses, like people, tend to have more energy and will eventually learn to take advantage of a kid and become difficult for him/her to control. The kid will eventually end up rubbed off on a fence post or dumped on the trail somewhere. An older horse with plenty of time under saddle, and a little less energy, will make a better horse for a youngster. They tend to be less prone to becoming belligerent and disobedient, simply because they don't care that much anymore. Look for an old ranch horse that's about to be retired, in the 18 year old range. If you are talking about older kids, say 12 years and up, you can consider a younger well-broke horse (one that won't die before the kid goes to college!), but get the kid riding lessons at least. The "they'll learn together" concept sounds nice, but simply doesn't work.

I too find that many horses seem to become more careful and gentle with a young child rider, but younger horses tend to eventually learn they don't have to obey if they don't want to and can become dangerous to a child. A child or untrained "kid" rider will eventually ruin a horse that's not already fully set in it's ways.

Just my opinion.
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post #15 of 30 Old 12-17-2012, 02:21 PM
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post #16 of 30 Old 12-17-2012, 02:27 PM
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My older gelding once had my six year old cousin petting on him and when my very dominant mare came over and tried to strike at him (near the kid) he turned right around and just nailed her. That is something that NEVER would of been expected since normally this gelding is so submissive.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Some horses have it, some horses don't. With some horses, you can tell at a young age that they'll be a good kids horse when they're older and have more experience.
The assessment process of a new potential lesson horse- We'd take them and just see how they'd react to a plethora of situations. We'd ride them like a kid would ride, without perfect balance or cues, mimicking stuff you see beginner kids doing. If they passed those tests, an instructor would ride them in the arena with the group lessons and see how they were with other horses in an instruction setting. Then they would start being ridden in class by the most experienced students. Then, some horses would prove themselves enough to work their way down in experience level of riders, and sometimes you would get great beginner horses, and those you keep for life. They're worth their weight in gold and they're hard to come by.
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post #18 of 30 Old 12-17-2012, 02:47 PM
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Our old gelding was a great kids horse. He would follow along all day long, listen to those little feet and hands. Put an adult on him and you better know what you were doing :)
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I have a perfect example in support of the argument that it's the temperament more than the training...that kid horses are born, not made.

This horse was labeled an outlaw and killer in his younger years after hurting several cowboys pretty badly. When my Dad got him, it was because he had been loaded onto a truck with a load of cattle headed to the slaughter house. His owner just wanted him dead before he killed someone, but my Dad talked them out of it and took the horse for free. It took months, lots of pain inflicted, and sometimes cruel treatment to get this horse rideable for any adult. Even after he figured out that it was in his best interest to listen to the riders, he was still almost uncontrollable. Hot and chargey and arrogant. If he decided he wanted to go back to the barn/trailer, then nothing could stop him. He would climb over fences (no matter how tall), bowl over people, crash gates and pickups and didn't matter to him. He felt zero fear of anything. He was 16 hands and 1500 pounds of sheer muscle and F***-you attitude.

Then, one day, this horse was tied to the fence at a roping. My brother was about 4 years old at the time and somehow climbed the fence and ended up on the horse. It was apparent right then that old Buck had found his lot in life. Where, with an adult, he was almost impossible to have a pleasant ride on, for a child, he would do anything and go anywhere. He seemed to know what level of rider was up there and would respond accordingly. Even after I got a bit older and started to ride him, for my brother (who is 4 years older than me) he would blast out of the roping box at full speed with a simple touch...and I couldn't beat him any faster than a slow trot. If something went wrong with an adult riding him, he would do what he wanted and the health of the rider be ****ed. In the same situation with a child, he would stop dead still and wait until help came; whether the kid was hanging off his side, under his feet, or he was tangled in wire...didn't matter. An adult, he'd step right on you and sneer as he walked away, but a child could be right under his feet and he would fall over sideways before putting any weight on a foot that happened to be on top of something squishy (learned that at a horse show when my brother, who was about 8 at the time, ended up tangled in Buck's front feet)

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I do believe a horse knows where there are children on them and take good care of them.........what a wonderful story smrobs!

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