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    04-13-2012, 02:29 PM
Green Broke
laying down

I have been riding a horse for many many years now and I want to know the advantages to having a horse that can lay down, how to teach them the ABSOLUTELY safe way and the disadvantages. !!!
!! I have heard of horses like laying down on riders when they teach them wrong and what not/
Also how could I teach my horse to bow.. I just want easy safe tricks that I can teach or the views on them//// some I think people shouldnt do but some I am okay with...
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    07-02-2012, 05:48 PM
Green Broke
    07-02-2012, 06:04 PM
I think there's a book called Trickonometry that tells you how to teach some tricks, but I haven't read it.
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    07-02-2012, 06:15 PM
I know laying a horse down is cool and all but it can be very dangerous.

Many people want to treat a horse like a dog and force it to lay down to make he horse understand the persons dominance. This works for dogs. Horses are not dogs. You can't alpha roll a horse and get its respect. When you shove a dog down, they think "wow this dude is strong. I'd better listen!" when you alpha roll a horse, the horse thinks "must run away faster!!!". It can be VERY damaging for a horses trust in people to be forced down.

Trickonometry is a really good book. You can also google just about anything and find a video.
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    07-03-2012, 01:00 AM
Advantages of laying a horse down;
If done properly, it can prove their trust in you.
You can get on a horse without a mounting block or if you're physically disabled.
It's a fun trick.
If desired you can force a horse to stay down & put up with all sorts, in the name of desensitising - called 'flooding'.

It can be dangerous, especially if done badly.
It can have nothing to do with trust and be forced, which can cause a horse to become 'shut down', especially if also exposed to other 'scary' stuff it has no option but to submit to.
If not taught well, horses may do this when not cued.

No, IMO there is no foolproof way that's 'absolutely' safe to teach this, but ensuring you have a sound, trusting relationship with the horse first and using methods to teach that don't involve force are safest.

For trick & fun stuff training generally, "Games" to keep my horse thinking? is a good thread. ImagineAHorse is a good one to look up for inspiration & ideas. 'Clicker Training' is an effective way to train & the principles behind it are sound & effective no matter what/how you train.

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