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    08-05-2009, 06:10 PM
  #31
Showing
OMG Lucky he's still around. I see no reason to tie him if you don't have to.
I don't like walking off and leaving them unattended for long periods of time anyway. I'm a nervous horse mom
     
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    08-05-2009, 07:41 PM
  #32
Trained
Me too, now! I'm happy to leave other horses tied, but not for long. Any horse that has a tendency to pull back, no way. That's why we made yards. You just can't always trust twine, or anything you tie to.
     
    08-05-2009, 08:51 PM
  #33
Banned
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Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
OMG Lucky he's still around. I see no reason to tie him if you don't have to.
I don't like walking off and leaving them unattended for long periods of time anyway. I'm a nervous horse mom
I will go on camping trips or 3 day endurance rides and my horses are tied the entire time except when under saddle. We use high line and rings that run along the high line , a clothes line so to speak and the horses each has a run of a area and they are quit content to spend the nights and parts of the day tied like this. I sleep soundly at night knowing my guy is on a high line.
Pens, hot wire get mowed down in a storm when horses stampede but every horse on a high line is still there after the others have cleaned out the camp. I have never known a horse to get hurt tied on a high line at any rides. As for twin we only use it to bale hay. It has no place on tying a horse. I have left my guy tied to the side of a trailer while at the beach and again he is fine.
The amish set up a roadside store near me and they arrive at about 7 in the morning, they tie the horses to the back of a wagon and at 7 at night they hitch them up and go home.. Those guys stand 12 hours in the same spot and seem to be ok.
I am not nervous about properly tying a horse and then leaving to go to the beach or run someplace. I just ask the people camping around me to keep an eye on the guys.
What difference does it make it a solidly tied horse tests with a pull? I am working a new guy and went to give him his first bath, He pulled back, jumped forward and stood for the bath. Every time I tie him I tie as if he will test it. Again if they test a solid tie and then just stand so what if they are tied properly??
If my guy would gain say 5 feet of rope from the blocker what is that showing him.
Bee stings, flying paper, firecrackers and anything else you can name will not harm him if he attempts a pull and gives up. Sure horses are spooked and will try but after a half hearted attempt they all stand quietly, the spook is gone by then.
I am NOT nervous around horses, tied horses and anything else.
Tying is nothing compared to some of the terrain I get my boy into and he has to listen exactly or we both can be killed. One side jump at the wrong time and both of us could easily die.
Again 50 plus years of experience here.
     
    08-05-2009, 09:52 PM
  #34
Trained
Like I said above, most horses I will trust to stand tied. My current main riding horse I have no problems with leaving tied, as I know what he will do in an emergency situation. My little arab? If he spooks and feels he is stuck he will struggle until either something breaks, or he is so exhausted he can't struggle anymore. That's not a situation I would like my horse to be in. I know it is a rare case, but it happened.

When I camp, my horses are yarded. Never had a problem with it, even through storms etc.

Twine is commonly accepted throughout OZ and promoted through Pony Club as a safe material to tie horses to, tying to a solid object is not encouraged. Twine is meant to break under large amounts of pressure, and mostly does, but asproved with my guy cannot be trusted 100%.

I have never used a high line, but it sounds like an altogether different situation than normal tying.

I have seen horses tied to 'supposedly' solid objects who are 'supposedly' good tyers, who freak out and end up running, dragging the 'solid' object behind and under their feet. There are a lot fo things that can go wrong with tying... All my horses learn to ground tie even if I don't always use it.
     
    08-05-2009, 09:57 PM
  #35
Green Broke
The problem with a solid post is the immense damage you are potentially doing to their necks. Yeah, it works great, and the cost is high if the horse blows a gasket. Maybe that's fine for people who don't mind broken necks and cut up horses, but I find it pretty senseless to promote that as the most sensible tying method. Vidaloco has presented a method that works just as well, with little to no risk of injury. Which makes a lot more sense considering the OP has ALREADY stated she had to cut her mare loose once from the solid post method.

That's fine if it works for you, and it's fine if it worked "back in the day", but there ARE safer and more sensible methods available now. I agree they may not work with a range raised Mustang, but that's not what we're dealing with here. Adapt the method to suit the horse, don't assume the same method is good for every horse.
     
    08-05-2009, 10:11 PM
  #36
Trained
^^ definitely agree.
     
    08-05-2009, 11:03 PM
  #37
Yearling
If you rule out the possibility of an injury, try tying her to a hitching post with a very long rope so she's got room when she tries to lie down. As soon as she lies down, get a crop and smack her butt repeatedly until she gets up. My friend had a similar problem and after one time of me 'correcting' her, the mare hasnt done it once.
     
    08-05-2009, 11:12 PM
  #38
Banned
Just make sure you don't tie her up anymore, that could break her neck when she is tied up and trys to lay down
     
    08-06-2009, 03:02 AM
  #39
Yearling
I had a horse come through here that absolutely would not stand tied in a place unless he wanted to stand tied. He stood for grooming, bathing, saddling, ect. EXCEPT when he didn't want to be tied where you tied him. Then he would dog sit and pull until he got loose, and when he couldn't get loose he'd slam himself to the ground and flop over in disgust. I tried everything (except the blocker tie, that device wasn't around then.) To make a long story short, I decided that if he wanted to throw a fit and flop his butt on the ground, then he'd stay there till I let him up...so I untied the rope from the post and tied him down with it leaving him there on the ground, where he had laid himself down, for 2 hours. That was the only thing that worked for this horse. Never had a problem after that.
     
    08-06-2009, 09:46 AM
  #40
Showing
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Originally Posted by Horse Poor    
I had a horse come through here that absolutely would not stand tied in a place unless he wanted to stand tied. He stood for grooming, bathing, saddling, ect. EXCEPT when he didn't want to be tied where you tied him. Then he would dog sit and pull until he got loose, and when he couldn't get loose he'd slam himself to the ground and flop over in disgust. I tried everything (except the blocker tie, that device wasn't around then.) To make a long story short, I decided that if he wanted to throw a fit and flop his butt on the ground, then he'd stay there till I let him up...so I untied the rope from the post and tied him down with it leaving him there on the ground, where he had laid himself down, for 2 hours. That was the only thing that worked for this horse. Never had a problem after that.

That's pretty funny now. Probably wasn't at the time
     

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