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    10-11-2012, 06:13 PM
Lazy horse, anything I can do?

He is so lazy. Not just under saddle. If I'm leading him he walks super slow, lunging if I can get him to trot I'm lucky. Riding, it takes encouraging to get him to trot, but he will do it, but it is a workout to get him to lope. He will just trot faster and faster around the arena, then finally break into a lope for a few strides then back down to a trot. He always tries to duck off to the gate, when he does that I really work his butt next to it then walk off and let him relax in the center. Trail riding he is the slowest horse I have ever ridden, we don't get anywhere very fast. If he gets a little tired he stops and wants to turn around, which results in circles and backing up until he decides to go forward. I don't know what to do with him. Do I just need to get more stern with him? I always ask nice first, then I tell him, but it doesn't seem to work all that well. Should I get a dressage whip and work with him on moving forward more? I don't mind a slow horse, but when I tell him to go, he better go. To stop all he needs is for me to squeeze my thighs and sit down and he drops his butt. To get him to go again is a nightmare.
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    10-11-2012, 06:17 PM
Was also going to ask about my way of stopping him. When I was teaching him whoa I tried a few things that didn't get through to him. Then I accidentally squeezed my thighs somehow when I sat down and said whoa and it clicked. Now all he needs is to feel my thighs squeeze him a little and he is happy to stop. Is this a correct way of stopping a horse? I sit down, stop moving with him, and squeeze. I don't put my legs forward, I put my reins to his neck as another que. I guess if it works for him I'm not going to change it, was just curious
    10-11-2012, 06:26 PM
Are you riding western or English?
Hmm sounds like he needs lessons in impulsion. Do you use a longe whip to 'encourage' him to move out?

What I would personally do is this:

Spank his butt!

Haha no, (well yes) but in your case because I don't know you or your horse, I'd start with really getting him moving on the longe line, and I would also be real consistent with my vocal cues and body position. When I cluck you up, you MUST trot, when I make a kissing sound to you, I DARE YOU not to lope.....they can figure a person out pretty quick, and if your not consistent with him he will try you out EVERYTIME! Some horses, if you annoy them enough with your kicking and heel rolling will EVENTUALLY do what you ask. But you want him to do it the first time EVERYTIME you ask......


Also, don't worry about the whoa, sounds like he has plenty of that for now, I'd work on the go.......also, always reward the horse for his efforts by letting him take a breather break when he has responded well to you.
    10-11-2012, 06:43 PM
If I have a lunge whip he will go. So long as I keep after him the whole time. I normally get more of a workout than him. Sometimes though he will just ignore that too. I can do all the whip cracking I want and he just trots around and around while I chase him. If I sting his hind end with the whip he will lope a couple of circles. I will go buy a dressage whip.
    10-11-2012, 06:45 PM
I am really consistent with my seat and ques, but I think I'm asking too much and not being stern enough. Today I started to get mad at him, so I just made him trot a circle then I hosed him off and tied him to dry while I cooled down. Then I went to put him away, got on him bareback with the rope halter on and he was a very good boy. All I did was trot him around a little then put him away
    10-11-2012, 06:56 PM
Green Broke
If I squeeze I get a faster movement of what ever I am doing.
    10-11-2012, 06:58 PM
My first thought, have you ruled out pain issues. A horse in pain will either not want to do anything or act out.

Once you've ruled out pain issues, make sure you've got him on good feed (be it pasture, hay, pellets, etc). All that squared away.. does all your tack fit him?

All those basics squared away then go on to training. Ground work, and lots of it. Before you get back in the saddle make sure your ground work is solid.
    10-11-2012, 07:04 PM
Double post sorry
    10-11-2012, 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by WhiskeyCowGirl    
My first thought, have you ruled out pain issues. A horse in pain will either not want to do anything or act out.

Once you've ruled out pain issues, make sure you've got him on good feed (be it pasture, hay, pellets, etc). All that squared away.. does all your tack fit him?

All those basics squared away then go on to training. Ground work, and lots of it. Before you get back in the saddle make sure your ground work is solid.
Exactly what I was going to say....was too lazy to type it all! I just get mad when a horse is lazy! Jeans riding up to my knees because I have to keep squeezing and rolling my heels....ack! Haha if you can see my boot tops, you know I'm getting mad and looking around for my spurs!!!!
    10-11-2012, 07:23 PM
Yep, he has been seen by a vet, his teeth are floated, wolf teeth pulled, nothing wrong with him. He is on our gorgeous green pasture with free choice minerals, clean water, up to date on everything. He is pretty lazy out in the pasture too. If I didn't know better I would think he was an old retired pasture puff. All he does is eat and sleep, occasionally finding a nice stick to play with. He is a little fat, I don't ride him super hard since he is only 2 1/2, I never ride him enough to break a sweat, other than today to make him lope. Other than his laziness, he is a really good horse. He doesn't spook at anything, he goes in the water,walks out by himself, doesn't talk to the horse he leaves behind, opens gates, moves off my legs, stops and backs up like a champ and working slowly on turn arounds. I love him, he is just lazy.

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