Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: The land of Enchantment
If you are very sure this is not a training issue (i.e., they do know the cues, but choose to ignore them), then you might try waking them up w over under immediately followed by "getting w them" (e.g., decisively put them into a trot, whatever). However, since they are "new to you", I would start them from the beginning to ensure it is not simply a training issue.
There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it.