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post #1 of 7 Old 04-07-2009, 04:42 AM Thread Starter
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Leadership Techniques

I recently bought my first horse. He kept putting his ears back in agression and it's been a week since I got him. He runs in front of me and then tries to kick me.

I've never had a horse before, but I've never seen a horse carry on like he does, and my sisters new horse (her first as well) doesn't do anything like that.

I've decided to sell him back to the previous owners. They love him and actually regretted selling him. I think it would be the best choice to sell him back. He behaves for them, not me.

Now it's time to look for a new horse. When I find one that I think is suitable, I need to show it I'm the leader right from the beginning. So I was just wondering, what techniques can I use that will ensure I have control?

I know lunging is one, but because I'm new to horses I don't know much else.
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post #2 of 7 Old 04-07-2009, 03:40 PM
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I know lunging is one, but because I'm new to horses I don't know much else.
Do yourself and the next horse a favour and go sign up for lessons. Or sign up to audit a clinic. The library is a great resource. There's is SO much you need to know that it's next to impossible to cover all the bases.

It could also be that you just picked the wrong horse. Next time take someone with lots of experience with you while your shopping. A trainer would be best.
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I was recently told about the saying 'A horse chooses it's owner... it will find you'.

Last night, I had a dream. I found one. He was Palimino and he was beautiful. I ran up and hugged him. Maybe I should keep my eyes peeled for one that looked like him lol
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Just don't let yourself get hung up on how the horse looks. ;) When I first met Lacey I thought she was one of the most beautiful horses I've ever seen, and she was/is, BUT I let that get in the way of honestly assessing her and I've been paying for it since she has some pretty big behavior issues. Thankfully I've finally (seven months later) figured out how to work with her safely and successfully but I'm a pretty experienced rider. When I first saw my favorite horse ever, of all time, I thought he was the most disgusting yucky looking horse ever but when I gave him the chance to show me what he could be we surpassed everybody's expectations. Don't hold yourself back becuase the horse isn't "the right" color or doesn't look "the right way" you'll find the right one, but in the meantime, like G and K's mom said, find a trainer and work on your skills, who knows, your lesson horse might be "the one". =)
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post #5 of 7 Old 04-08-2009, 01:24 AM
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Don't go by looks at all.

AGE: Get an OLDER horse. Preferrably one who is in his late teens. Why? Because the older the horse, the more riding time it's had, more handling, more time to settle into life with people = more forgiving of newbies.

--of course, there are those horses who are older and badly trained, too, but I'm talking about proven seasoned horses like typically off a ranch, ropers, trail horses, western pleasure horses

--Younger is NOT better. If you get a horse that is less than 10 years old, that horse may of been started at 2 or (better yet) 3 or 4. That means about 6 years or so of saddle time (that's assuming the horse has actually been ridden/worked for that long vs. sitting in someone's pasture). That's not a lot of time.

--Younger horses also need to know that you are the leader, you know what you're doing. Younger horses (typically, yeah, there's always the exception)...are not forgiving of mistakes as older seasoned horses tend to be.

--My first horse was 15 years old and he was the best "babysitter" I could of asked for because I knew nothing. He was very forgiving and built up my confidence. Then my second horse was a little bit more and I worked my way up to unbroke horses (I train for a living now).

--Go to your local ranches
--Lesson horses can be good too, but be aware of soundness issues
--Horse Rescues can also be great places to find horses. No, they are not there because they are messed up or whatever. They're there for whatever other reasons. I know of a rescue for example, that has and does take in horses who are already trained so well the rescue lends them out to local ranches to gather cattle and put more miles on the horse to be sure they are perfect for a new owner. Some horses even come with some basic dressage training, reining training, etc....

It's way more than lunging. If you don't know what you're doing, lunging can turn into a nightmare. I wouldn't start there. Frankly, lunging (if it's just going around in circles without any real instruction) is not good practice. But if you do it with instruction (like stopping, changing directions, changing speed, asking for softness, etc) then yeah, it's a good tool.

Get some DVDs and books:

The Revolution in Horsemanship (Amazon.com $8)
Clinton Anderson DVDs

And of course, TAKE LESSONS with your horse (it's not just about riding, but overall). I specialize in teaching newbies or seasoned owners and their horses how to get along. I don't give riding lessons, I give training lessons.....from ground to saddle, how to play leader and fix/prevent problems. I suggest you find a trainer near you to take some leadership lessons.

Most of all, educate yourself through all the awesome info there is out there about Natural Horsemanship training. It's very easy stuff, just takes practice and determination. If you've got that and some patience, you're set.

Clinton Anderson, John Lyons, Pat Parelli, Chris Cox, Dennis Reis, Etc.... This is just a short list of trainers who share the same basic foundation ideas on the subject.

Good luck.
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Yeah, I recently watched some videos with Pat Parelli etc. They were insightful and tought me a lot.

Out of all the videos i watched, i never seen anyone hit the horse. The majority of them just walked away from the horse when he/she did something wrong.

Only thing about getting an older horse, will be the fact I won't be able to compete. I need a horse that is forgiving and I can learn on, but will be able to do barrel racing and small jumps etc as well.
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A horses age does not always dictate whether it can be barrel raced or jumped or whatever. =) My mare is 24 but she acts like she's 10 or younger. She could probably jump and barrel race if I felt comfortable (she's not trained for them so I think it'd be pushing it) with using her for those things. I would certainly be more careful to not push her beyond her limits because of her age but she could most definitely do it.
If you look for a horse that's around fifteen and is already carefully and well trained in barrel racing/jumping etc and is in pretty good shape (no arthritis, bone chips, not too skinny/fat, etc) you should be just fine since the horse will have most likely gotten past it's testing stages but it should still have around 5-10 more years of barrel racing (I don't know how fast horses break down in barrel racing so that's a guesstimate) and probably 10 years of small jumps. And for sure you'd be able to compete.
Good luck!
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