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    10-09-2010, 11:18 PM
Green Broke
Ok makes sense!
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    10-09-2010, 11:25 PM
Wow, very cool. That is a ton of people all gathered in one place. I pretty much work my leads the same way. I get them familiar with the cue on a circle and then if they are sluggish on the straight, I will pick up the outside rein to tip their nose to the outside and apply outside leg to move their hindquarters over, they sometimes end up in a full halfpass before they pick up the canter. That usually makes it pretty impossible for them to pick up the wrong one.

And can I just say OUCH!! I know that hurts. Sending virtual Ibuprofen for your poor foot.
    10-09-2010, 11:33 PM
Green Broke
What's stupid is she's always been fine with her leads - this has just surfaced in the last couple months. We've never had any problems with leads prior to this.

I'll just put some more arena work on her and see if I can get her ok with the left lead on the rail again!
    10-09-2010, 11:43 PM
Green Broke
If she has been okay and it's now a problem, do you think it's possible it could be a strain of some sort and it just uncomfortable to get on that lead for some reason?
    10-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Green Broke
I thought about that, but she picks it up fine outside the arena. It was my first thought, but we've done some outside work and as long as we don't have rails, she's usually fine. It's only in the arena she does it.

Edit to add - I also lunged her to see if she'd do it and she will pick up the correct lead on the lunge AND will pick up the correct lead on the lunge with a rider on her. She'll also do it if my circle is small enough and off the wall. But if you ask her on the straight away or coming out of a corner, she'll always pick up her right lead instead of left.
    10-10-2010, 12:01 AM
Green Broke
Hmm... that is odd.
    10-10-2010, 01:03 AM
Green Broke
Leads start in the back, thus you need hip control
Move hip into lead.
Do not tip nose tot he outside of the lead. This is an incorrect method that I myself used, years back and many clinics ago. It was used to try and force a horse onto the lead by actually having them drop that inside shoulder,and also uses the wrong idea that the lead fore lead is the start of that particular lead,when in fact, it is the last beat of that stride
, and not the first
Move hip into lead, that sets up the first beat. (outside hind leg ) second beat, inside hind and outside front hitting ground at same time.Third beat, lead front leg hitting the ground
You hold inside shoulder up with inside rein, then drive horse up into lead with outside leg
Can't believe there are professional trainers out there actually telling people to tip the nose to the outside of the lead!!!!!!
    10-10-2010, 01:16 AM
First off, Smilie, I don't appreciate that underhanded little dig you just attempted and second, hmm, I don't have a problem with my horses dropping their shoulders. Maybe I do it differently than you tried.
    10-10-2010, 06:29 PM
Green Broke
Thank you for telling me what everyone already knows without actually giving me any additional information to help fix the problem.

I know how to ride a canter transition, I know how to ask, and obviously the problem is that it's not working. I'm also fully aware of HOW a canter works and the fact that it an engine problem and not a forehand problem.

People aren't wrong just because they differ in method, and I trust smrobs training advice moreso then any other person on this board, so the remark isn't very called for.

In good news, out on the trail today Jynx chose to pick up her left lead once (she usually opts for the right). I made sure to check her leads and see what she was doing out on the trail, so I'm fairly certain she's not sore or anything on that side.

We'll be doing arena work tomorrow, fingers crossed it goes well!
    10-10-2010, 10:08 PM
Thank you MM. It may not be the best way to teach leads, but if all else fails, you have to do something to get them on the correct lead and I am not a fan of using spurs to force the issue like a lot of people will. After all, you can't work on the lead if they refuse to pick it up, right?

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