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        10-12-2010, 12:49 AM
      #41
    Yearling
    This thread has been mildly entertaining.. :o)
         
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        10-12-2010, 09:58 AM
      #42
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by starlinestables    
    This thread has been mildly entertaining.. :o)
    I'm glad I could be of service :P



    And western chick, I owned Quarter Horses for a few years before I seriously did dressage. I worked cattle, did reining and put hours in on the trails. I wasn't birthed into a dressage saddle as you may think. Perhaps, you should try your hand in the dressage ring? But then you'd have to put up with us "princesses" all day. Not like there's any in reining, WP or barrels...
         
        10-12-2010, 05:14 PM
      #43
    Foal
    I'm done with this post, as it is becoming useless, and I don't intend to provide further entertainment-so be my guest
    Anebel, what happened since your original post when you claimed to know nothing about western riding? I am finding it hard to take you seriously
    Now you've done er all !!!
    Well, I in my humble state do confess to having taken a few dressage lessons
    The first video, by the way, was on a training method of teaching flying changes, using the counter canter. It is certainly not how a finished western horse changes leads
    I believe my caption was designed to show hip control and how it is used in lead departures and flying changes, so your rant seems rather pointless.
    The horse in the post is a green stock horse, thus I think stock horse western and hunter under saddle training methods apply
    Why not stick to telling fellow dressage riders how to ride?
         
        10-12-2010, 06:05 PM
      #44
    Foal
    If you did reining, then you would know that the counter canter is used a lot in reining training, used also to keep a horse from antisipating lead changes with a change of direction, as all lead changes in reining pattern occur at center
    A working cowhorse class goes beyond tracking cows across a field. Have you taken a cow down the fence and circled him?
    Trail rides come in all degrees also. Have you ridden on icy trails with sheer drop offs, using borium smeers, to ride to above the tree line on late BIg Horn sheep hunts
    How about packing out an elk?
    I'm not going tit for tac here, but there is more to western disciplines than what any dude can perform on a holiday at a dude ranch, and that includes the training of an upper end discipline western performance horse.
    I freely admit my knowledge of dressage is limited, but don't feel it is a handicap to what I wish to do with a horse
    If you can find a top western trainer, be it reining, HUS or western pl that does not agree on how I posted a western horse is set up for lead departures and flying changes, please let me know, otherwise , our conversation is over
         
        10-12-2010, 06:12 PM
      #45
    Foal
    I didn't read through all the way, but wanted to ask if the foot was feeling better? If there is damage to the top of your foot, go get it checked now before it heals too much. I had a similar incident, and now can't wear any shoes that are at all tight across the top of my foot because the damaged bits hurt like crazy. Mine are visibly and palpably out of place with a ridge, so if yours are anything like that, then you should go get it x-rayed and aligned if necessary. It's fine over summer, but I have a devil of a time with winter shoes. :) Hope it heals well, regardless!
         
        10-12-2010, 06:31 PM
      #46
    Foal
    I couldn't edit the post, but just wanted to clarify that my foot was damaged about 12 years ago...

    Also, did manage to read through, and saw some good advice throughout. No need to smear or smack-talk Western vs. Dressage vs. What-Have-You. If the first method doesn't work, try the next one. And so on. Eventually you will find the "lightbulb method", and your horse will get the lead properly everytime. I was always lucky in that my horses would pick up and change leads naturally with minimal interferance from me, so I have no further advice to add. Just keep trying, and keep it fun - if you get too serious about it she'll be unhappy, and that isn't the point. :)
         
        10-12-2010, 10:50 PM
      #47
    Yearling
    LOL yall take yourselves a little to seriously. It will be ok! The horse will learn to canter on the correct lead eventually and the owner will be happy, and then we can all give ourselves a little pat on the back.. :oP
         
        10-12-2010, 11:42 PM
      #48
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by starlinestables    
    LOL yall take yourselves a little to seriously. It will be ok! The horse will learn to canter on the correct lead eventually and the owner will be happy, and then we can all give ourselves a little pat on the back.. :oP
    The horse already knows how to canter on the lead. It doesn't need to learn anything!!
    This is the part I find funny.
         
        10-12-2010, 11:54 PM
      #49
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    The horse already knows how to canter on the lead. It doesn't need to learn anything!!
    This is the part I find funny.

    Yes I have seen the videos. Nothing wrong at all on either lead and in an enclosed space.


    Makes one wonder.
         
        10-13-2010, 12:29 AM
      #50
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    Yes I have seen the videos. Nothing wrong at all on either lead and in an enclosed space.


    Makes one wonder.
    The horse is obviously stubborn, and not picking up the lead to spite the rider. Right?
         

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