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        03-29-2011, 02:33 PM
    Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
    I actually find horses that are responsive way easier to work with and I am 100% sure that I would have no problem working with your horses whatsoever. What I find more complicated is horses that appear slow (or lazy as you call them) and then they are extremely reactive. I have never seen a quarterhorse act like that. I know a women here locally that works with warmbloods and she says that when someone sent her a quarterhorse she thought that she should pay them to work with the horse because it was soooo easy. I know some AQHAs can be a bigger challenge than others - of course - but in general and comparing to other breeds especially warmbloods these little AQHAs are a piece of cake. I can assure you that I have worked with lots of AQHAs.
    I am sure you have since there are so many out there. There is a big differance between different lines of QH. I would ask what the pedigree was like. I too have worked around and know a lot of WB as I have several friends who show ride and breed them. I have had many in to be bred over the years. Not that hard to handle or train. They are no where as quick as the QH I have worked with and collected and bred over the years. Now TB that is a different story. Really hate collecting TB stallions. They are not here long enough to get them going well. TB mares are a bit different too. However by the 3rd or 4th day they are just like the QH mares in to be bred. Just depends on how you handle them.

    It all comes down to how you handle them a lot of the time.
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        03-29-2011, 02:36 PM
    Originally Posted by Cherie    
    I used to train a lot of Arabians and most of them came to me thoroughly spoiled by people that told me "you can't do this or that with him" etc. They had been taught that they had no boundaries because they were Arabians.
    Arabians are very smart horses and are not difficult at all.

    Originally Posted by Cherie    
    Being a 'hot-blood' does NOT mean that a horse cannot be trained to have good manners including being tied however long you want to tie it.
    Of course not.

    Cherie you seem to focus on horses that have been mishandled by people and I personally find horses like this are quite easy to work with and turn into well behaved horses. What I find more difficult is modifying behaviors of horses that have been abused and stupid people doing stupid things because they don't understand or they misunderstand. That is why I think it is important to explain how we teach horses. You have not done that very well in this thread.
        03-29-2011, 02:42 PM
    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    It all comes down to how you handle them a lot of the time.
    Yes I agree and this it my point completely. It is about knowledge, skills, technique, and time.

    As far as AQHAs go of course there is a huge variety and also with the warmbloods and TBs. I've worked with some really hot TBs and also really hot warmbloods. The hot warmbloods are way more difficult because they are more flexible, athletic, smart, aggressive, fearful ... I could go on than any TB I have ever seen. I've got one and have turned him into a good horse and many people say he seems gentle. But I know that he could be someone's worst nightmare if he were in the wrong hands.
        03-29-2011, 02:46 PM
    I have to laugh that you think WBs are not as quick as AQHAs... you haven't seen my WB. He's about 16hh and is quicker than all of my AQHAs and I've got one that is pretty hot.

    I would love to see your horses - do you have a website or maybe you could post some photos.
        03-29-2011, 02:50 PM
    Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
    But I know that he could be someone's worst nightmare if he were in the wrong hands.
    This is true of any horse. I know when I first moved back up here I had to board my horses. They had no clue as to how to handle a stallion. Te b/c very very hard and dangerous for them b/c they had no clue what they where doing. They had just about as hard a time with my mares.

    The people who handled them who did have a clue could not figure out why the others where complaining.

    Te is one of the easiest horses to ride and work. Even kids ride him. However if you do not know what you are doing he will in time take advantage of that as any animal would.
        03-29-2011, 03:04 PM
    Lets see those AQHA's there are a lot of them that are not very quick. However a good cutter or reiner is going to be very quick. They must be.

    I could keep going but you get the picture.
        03-29-2011, 03:26 PM
    Yes I know they must be quick - I have a cutting bred gelding and he is very quick but not as quick or as aggressive as the WB. What you have to realize is that WBs were bred for the military to be be big, strong, and aggressive. AQHAs were bred to work on ranches to be calm, smart, and submissive.

    I think a lot of horses can be difficult in the wrong hands but my WB would be difficult in "most" hands because most people don't have enough savvy to handle a horse like that. I guess it's just one of those things that cannot be appreciated unless you see if for yourself.
        03-29-2011, 03:39 PM
    Again I have worked with and collected and bred a lot of WB mares and stallions. Have yet to find one that is as quick as my reiner. I can not speak for ever QH or every WB. I can only speak of the ones I have worked with and been around. Believe me when you are under them collecting you find out how quick they really are.
        03-29-2011, 03:50 PM
    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    Believe me when you are under them collecting you find out how quick they really are.
    Too funny! I'll bet that is true and another I don't need to ever do in my life . We certainly all have our own experiences. BTW your horses (I assume they are yours) are lovely.
        03-29-2011, 03:57 PM
    Yes they are mine. Thanks.

    Would love to see some of yours. Love WB. My favorite has been a TB Trakaner cross that my vet owned that was in for breeding. She was a big thing and so sweet. One of her daughters not so much but the last one out of that mare very very nice. Would steel her however the owner (my vet) would find her at some point.

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