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    03-25-2011, 05:26 PM
  #41
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Northern    
OMG, I'm sorry I forgot to add: DON,T EVER TIE A HORSE SOLID WITH A KNOTTED ROPE HALTER & LEAVE HIM! Plus, USE A QUICK-RELEASE KNOT always, with a knotted rope halter!

The rope halter won't break should the horse start to fight it, for whatever reason, increasing the odds greatly that he could seriously hurt himself!
I'm not sure you should ever actually "leave" a horse tied. You should always be in ear shot (my opinion). Also, it's good practice to always have a pocket knife handy because sometimes quick releases don't release when the horse has really had a fit or if it's a certain type of rope. (of course, I always forget to carry a pocket knife... bad).
     
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    03-25-2011, 05:33 PM
  #42
Showing
^^Agreed. A pocket knife is always a must and it always helps to keep it sharp. Quick release knots aren't always to quick to release when they have 1000 pounds of horse hanging on them LOL.
     
    03-25-2011, 06:35 PM
  #43
Green Broke
What is your opinion on standing stalls?




I LOVE a horse that knows how to tie. The reason we are taking the horse my Aunt just bought, last week, back is that she did not know how to tie. Not knowing that (because the horse is older) we tied her up in the barn and the horse wigged out enough to break the ring off the wall. Which in turn frightened my Aunt enough to not trust the horse. She stands tied now, thanks to me, but she is definitely not as the guy described her.
     
    03-25-2011, 06:38 PM
  #44
Showing
I am not a big fan of standing stalls, but it has nothing to do with the horse being tied. I am not a fan of regular stalls either. IMHO, a horse should have room to move around and lay down and stretch out if they want to. But, that's beside the point and off topic LOL.

I think that each horse should be able to be housed in a standing stall if their circumstances demand it.
     
    03-25-2011, 09:05 PM
  #45
Started
By saying not to tie with a knotted halter & leave horse, I didn't say that leaving a horse tied is ok.

I've never thought that it was ok to leave a horse tied, regardless of the halter type. I had to leave one barn because I came upon two horses, two separate incidents, all alone & tied, & freaking, & I spoke to owner about it & he didn't like that.

I meant ESPECIALLY, with a knotted halter on, don't leave the horse tied.
     
    03-25-2011, 10:32 PM
  #46
Weanling
Everyone has made great points regarding showing, trail riding, emergencies, etc. I have another point to add that probably most people haven't looked at. I used to work at a big training barn, we would ride 3-4 horses each (the main trainer and myself) in a day. To get the horses ridden, worked properly, and cooled out we had to do a few things. We would tack all the horses up before starting riding so we would have to tie the horses that where waiting to be worked so they didn't roll or wreck the saddles. After riding we would have to walk them until they stopped breathing hard but they would still be really hot. We would tie the horses in their stall (after being untacked) so they couldn't drink and potentially colic.

This may seem "cruel" to someone who doesn't understand their digestion, seeing a hot steamy horse standing in the stall without being able to drink...but that's exactly what they need at that point.

Anyway, just thought I would put that little training point of view out there.
     
    03-26-2011, 01:32 AM
  #47
Green Broke
This is why I love a horse that knows how to tie - she has headgear still on, and I jumped off and said whoa, so she must be tied to something and tied she will stay until I ask her to move! I am across the yard in this photo, stopping to take pics of my friends - Zierra stood by the trailer and never moved an inch!



For whoever said they're "bored", I find that utter and total hogwash. I've watched them stand and nap for hours at a time in the pasture, it's all they do in the summer. By your logic then, every last domesticated thing we do with them is cruel. Comparing them to "wild horses" in this sense is as silly as people who compare hooves to wild horses and why they don't need farriers. Domesticated horses roam their pastures, but that doesn't stop them from spending extended periods of time dozing together under the shade.
     
    03-26-2011, 03:31 AM
  #48
Foal
Yeah I don't agree that the horses hate being tied. Mine seem to like it. When I work them I tack them both up and work one for a bit and then the other. So when they are not being worked they get tied up. They like the break. Also I pack in a lot so its a must for that.
     
    03-26-2011, 03:56 AM
  #49
Trained
Well if leaving horses tied for hours is cruel, I'm a pretty abusive owner!
Where I compete, we rarely have stables available to leave the horse's in for the day, so they're all tied to the side of the float. Often I'll get a bugger of a draw, my first test will be at 8am and second not until mid to late afternoon. I can tell you, I a NOT going to be walking my horse around all day so that it can 'roam around'. It can learn to stand tied all day, with hay and water constantly available. I can't imagine how frustrating it is for people who's horses fret and carry on when left tied. What a pain! Mine have always settled, as soon as they are tied at a show, they know they're not going anywhere, and usually just go to sleep, or watch the happenings of the show, watch other horses go by etc. Certainly not stressed by any means!

IMO every horse should be taught to tie for long periods of time. As long as you're not strapping their head between their front legs and leaving them without water, they're perfectly happy! My guys stands under a tree and dozes for most of the day, as another poster said, whats the difference between that and having a halter/lead on?
Hell, humans are designed to roam around 'hunting and gathering' and our kids are meant to be active and running around, but we 'train' them to sit in a class room for hours, and many of us spend 8-9 hours a day sitting in an office in front of a computer for work!
     
    03-26-2011, 11:36 AM
  #50
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvera    
Everyone has made great points regarding showing, trail riding, emergencies, etc. I have another point to add that probably most people haven't looked at. I used to work at a big training barn, we would ride 3-4 horses each (the main trainer and myself) in a day. To get the horses ridden, worked properly, and cooled out we had to do a few things. We would tack all the horses up before starting riding so we would have to tie the horses that where waiting to be worked so they didn't roll or wreck the saddles. After riding we would have to walk them until they stopped breathing hard but they would still be really hot. We would tie the horses in their stall (after being untacked) so they couldn't drink and potentially colic.

This may seem "cruel" to someone who doesn't understand their digestion, seeing a hot steamy horse standing in the stall without being able to drink...but that's exactly what they need at that point.

Anyway, just thought I would put that little training point of view out there.
Exactally. Another very good example of training to stand tied.
     

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